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#2690109 - 07/20/12 06:51 PM shell synthetic how good is it??
Ram01 Offline


Registered: 10/13/10
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Loc: New York Queens
Shell synthetic. Is it better than PYB? ? How come it doesn't meet Dexos 1??

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#2690115 - 07/20/12 06:53 PM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: Ram01]
AlienBug Offline


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This is the oil filter forum. You should repost in the Passenger Car Motor Oil forum.
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#2690179 - 07/20/12 08:05 PM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: Ram01]
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Registered: 06/09/10
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Shell 'syn' is made of a better base than PYB. It is a fine oil. If you can get it for a good deal then jump on it. It depends on a lot of factors though, PYB is fine for most apps.
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#2690193 - 07/20/12 08:25 PM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: Ram01]
Doug Hillary Offline


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Hi,
Ram01 - In answer to your "general" question regarding Shell synthetics I can confirm that they are long term players in this field.

Much development took place in the 1930s. I have used their synthetic engine and gear lubricants with excellent results for several decades

Their synthetic 5W-40 XMO was the first synthetic FF used by Porsche around 1991
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#2690195 - 07/20/12 08:29 PM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: Ram01]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: Ram01
How come it doesn't meet Dexos 1??


SOPUS seems to be playing around with which oils will be dexos1 certified and which will not. I suspect that Formula Shell Synthetic would meet the dexos1 specification if it were so tested. I just don't see a need for Shell to pay to licence every oil they have that could conceivably meet the specification.

If it were me, I'd licence only the Pennzoil syn blend (as they've done) and then PU, with perhaps another one thrown in the mix. That way, you satisfy the bargain hunters and they guys that want the top end stuff.
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#2690235 - 07/20/12 09:09 PM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: Garak]
johnachak Offline


Registered: 12/08/10
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Loc: L.I. NY USA
Originally Posted By: Garak

If it were me, I'd licence only the Pennzoil syn blend (as they've done) and then PU, with perhaps another one thrown in the mix. That way, you satisfy the bargain hunters and they guys that want the top end stuff.


I haven't seen a Pennzoil.Synthetic Blend in years. Where would you find it?
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#2690237 - 07/20/12 09:12 PM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: johnachak]
dave1251 Offline


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WM's around here have Pennzoil Dexos blend. Its self space is always full.
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#2690241 - 07/20/12 09:14 PM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: Ram01]
dave1251 Offline


Registered: 07/15/05
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Loc: Maricopa, AZ
Originally Posted By: Ram01
Shell synthetic. Is it better than PYB? ? How come it doesn't meet Dexos 1??


I am sure it exceeds Dexos 1. It is a good oil for the right price use it. I have used this oil for my wife's focus. I bought it for 3 dollars and change on Amazon once upon a time. I can not think of a bad lubricant from Shell.
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#2690331 - 07/20/12 10:51 PM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: johnachak]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Agreed that it might be hard to find, but it does exist, and it is dexos1 licenced. wink

Here, I could probably find it at a parts store if I were so inclined. Personally, the only time I've used a synthetic blend is when I was using HM oil. Otherwise, I'd simply go to conventional or synthetic (unless I could get the U.S. blend Motorcraft oil up here, but that's another issue).
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#2690347 - 07/20/12 11:16 PM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: johnachak]
zerosoma Offline


Registered: 08/12/11
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Loc: Omaha, NE
Originally Posted By: johnachak
Originally Posted By: Garak

If it were me, I'd licence only the Pennzoil syn blend (as they've done) and then PU, with perhaps another one thrown in the mix. That way, you satisfy the bargain hunters and they guys that want the top end stuff.


I haven't seen a Pennzoil.Synthetic Blend in years. Where would you find it?


It's called Pennzoil Gold and it's sold at a select few stores around the country. I've seen it at one Wal-Mart and not at the others nearby. Sold only in quarts at about $4.38 each. It's pretty hit and miss but you're probably not missing out on much anyways.
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#2690469 - 07/21/12 04:11 AM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: zerosoma]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Unless you're in Canada, where $4.38 is approaching conventional prices at major stores, and would actually be cheaper than conventional in many places. wink
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#2690569 - 07/21/12 08:32 AM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: Garak]
G-MAN Offline


Registered: 11/15/02
Posts: 8936
Loc: SC
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Ram01
How come it doesn't meet Dexos 1??


SOPUS seems to be playing around with which oils will be dexos1 certified and which will not. I suspect that Formula Shell Synthetic would meet the dexos1 specification if it were so tested. I just don't see a need for Shell to pay to licence every oil they have that could conceivably meet the specification.

If it were me, I'd licence only the Pennzoil syn blend (as they've done) and then PU, with perhaps another one thrown in the mix. That way, you satisfy the bargain hunters and they guys that want the top end stuff.


Quaker State syn is certified Dexos 1.
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#2690963 - 07/21/12 04:42 PM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: G-MAN]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 20409
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Yep, I've seen that on QS synthetic, too. It's pretty affordable, too, with frequent rollbacks up here.
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2008 Infiniti G37 coupe - Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40, Baldwin B1402
1984 F-150 4.9L six - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

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#2691207 - 07/21/12 09:30 PM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: dave1251]
johnachak Offline


Registered: 12/08/10
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Loc: L.I. NY USA
Thanks. Coming to a WM near me soon I guess.
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#2691454 - 07/22/12 05:04 AM Re: shell synthetic how good is it?? [Re: Ram01]
Ram01 Offline


Registered: 10/13/10
Posts: 926
Loc: New York Queens
Thanks guys for your help

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