Recent Topics
Berkeley Professor arrested for Assault.
by pbm
05/26/17 07:28 AM
Oroville Dam Spillway Webcam
by Danno
05/26/17 06:28 AM
RA Clearance Oil Filters.
by dlundblad
05/26/17 06:22 AM
Where part store parts are made and by who
by ram_man
05/25/17 11:36 PM
Isn't it sad they can't predict the weather?
by motor_oil_madman
05/25/17 11:04 PM
recirculation mode makes ac last longer?
by motor_oil_madman
05/25/17 10:17 PM
Supertech ELC & NAPA Cool for 7.3 powerstroke
by T-Stick
05/25/17 10:16 PM
Toyota TGMO 0W20 - VOA
by VolkswagenFox21
05/25/17 09:38 PM
POTUS scolds "Bad Germans" ref auto sales in US
by wemay
05/25/17 08:35 PM
Do thermostats get 'lazy' over time?
by Klutch9
05/25/17 07:38 PM
Goodyear Endurance trailer tires
by another Todd
05/25/17 06:58 PM
What visits your yard?
by funflyer
05/25/17 06:47 PM
LR3 Brake pads
by HoosierJeeper
05/25/17 06:44 PM
Delco synchromesh friction modified MT fluid
by deoxy4
05/25/17 06:41 PM
Out of State Car Purchase Questions
by FirstNissan
05/25/17 06:14 PM
Smitty's Blue Light Special
by Egg_Head
05/25/17 03:56 PM
I ran Castrol 5W-50 for 5000 miles in my bike
by ammolab
05/25/17 03:25 PM
engine oil viscosity
by hamm
05/25/17 03:23 PM
Interesting Reads: Computer Scientists, SEs, CEs
by JeepWJ19
05/25/17 03:04 PM
NAPA PROSELECT 27151, CUT OPEN TORN!!!
by car51
05/25/17 02:53 PM
Newest Members
Jes, hamm, Curlscurls, stuka, rodekyll
61656 Registered Users
Who's Online
76 registered (Armkb, 4WD, Atesz792, Alfred_B, 2009Edge, AZjeff, 8 invisible), 1989 Guests and 11 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
61656 Members
66 Forums
265625 Topics
4389705 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#265369 - 05/07/03 03:29 PM Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
BOBISTHEOILGUY Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 1874
Loc: Ocala, Florida
Just for the fun of it, I went to my shop and took my new video camera and made a short video clip doing a back yard demo on the lube properties of some fuel additives. I used 5 different fuel additives to show the differences between some.

This might take a few for some to download if you're using a slow server.
Fuel additive demo

Top
#265370 - 05/08/03 09:21 AM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
BOBISTHEOILGUY Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 1874
Loc: Ocala, Florida
Has anyone had any luck downloading a viewing this video? Just wonder if it's working?

Top
#265371 - 05/08/03 09:59 AM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
acranox Offline


Registered: 04/17/03
Posts: 137
Loc: Massachusetts
yeah, I downloaded it, and watched it. It's interesting. The motion was a little jerky.
Pardon my ignorance, but why does a fuel additive need lubrication properties? Is it just for upper cylinder lubrication? I guess I figure it's more important for the oil to do that part of the job, and for a fuel additive to clean the fuel system and injectors/carb.
if it is related to upper cylinder lubrication could someone explain that a little to me, and explain why the right oil can't sufficiantly fill this role?

Top
#265372 - 05/07/03 10:04 PM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
Bogatyr Offline


Registered: 05/06/03
Posts: 107
Loc: Averill Park, NY
Bob,
Works fine for me...I'm on a cable modem, so the download time was slow, but not bad. How big was the file?
Thanks for the info. I've used RedLine Si1 for a while. It would have been interesting to see how that compared. In any case, I have a pantload of Neutra now, so I'll work my way through that now as well.
Bogatyr

Top
#265373 - 05/07/03 10:17 PM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
BOBISTHEOILGUY Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 1874
Loc: Ocala, Florida
quote:
Originally posted by acranox:
yeah, I downloaded it, and watched it. It's interesting. The motion was a little jerky.
Pardon my ignorance, but why does a fuel additive need lubrication properties? Is it just for upper cylinder lubrication? I guess I figure it's more important for the oil to do that part of the job, and for a fuel additive to clean the fuel system and injectors/carb.
if it is related to upper cylinder lubrication could someone explain that a little to me, and explain why the right oil can't sufficiently fill this role?

There's several reasons, but let me just put this one on the table..
Here is what a basic injector looks like inside, give or take a valve or two.
 -

Now, mind you two things, what does gas do to oil? Cleans it off? So, when you have a mechanical device such as the injector, there's several concerns, one, water or corrosion/rust.. Two, the piston and valves need some sort of lubrication, and three, the tip needs to stay clean and seals need to stay lubed.

Natural lubrication if fuel is from sulfur but the down side is carbon build up from the burning of sulfur. So, in some additives, they will clean, but what you need to ensure that you keep these parts lubricated and maintain a good Resistance to rust and corrosion so all these parts maintain optimal working condition.

There is horror stories from some of the local ford dealerships where someone puts in a fuel additive,(powerstrokes) and this messes up the injectors, mainly from seal damage. Reason is the lubrication is broke down, seal gets damaged and injectors start to fail. Lubrication is very important to a proper fuel system where motor oil cannot go to as that is not a primary side of the motor. Thats just a glimpse of why a fuel additive should have some type of lubrication qualities among other things.

Top
#265374 - 05/08/03 06:41 AM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
Tom Smith Offline


Registered: 12/17/02
Posts: 6
Loc: Indianapolis, IN USA
Great Video! Almost 66mb but it downloaded in 4 minutes with my cable modem [Wink] Thank God for Broadband.

Nice Job on the Video!

Tom in INdy

Top
#265375 - 05/08/03 06:53 AM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
digitaldrifter91 Offline


Registered: 09/14/02
Posts: 1902
Loc: cali
great video! i downloaded it in 2.4 minutes. hehe cable is great, u get what u paid for.

Top
#265376 - 05/08/03 09:24 AM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
quadrun1 Offline


Registered: 03/01/03
Posts: 764
Loc: Fairfield County, CT
Good server you got there, Bob! Where's it located?

IE said I got a fast 500 KB/sec to Long Island, New York (cable modem; ISP=optimumonline.net).

65.6 MB in 2 min 12 sec.

Thanks,
Jason

Top
#265377 - 05/08/03 08:45 PM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
BOBISTHEOILGUY Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 1874
Loc: Ocala, Florida
Thanks for the reply's.

For those of you with slower systems, I broke them down into smaller segments..
Here is
131 Neutra

Gum Out

Stp

Lucas

Techron

and here is the End Summary from these little tests

Hopefully I'll figure a way to resize these file to a smaller size. See if this will make it easier to run.

To answer the service question....
Goto my front page, Http://www.bobistheoilguy.com and click on the yellow banner at or near the top.

[ May 09, 2003, 11:48 AM: Message edited by: BOBISTHEOILGUY ]

Top
#265378 - 05/09/03 09:08 AM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
Mystic Offline


Registered: 03/05/03
Posts: 8467
Loc: Colorado
It was worth it to download the videos. It may have been simple tests, but very revealing. I am using Neutra now as a fuel system cleaner and it works well. It was fascinating to see the differences in just a few fuel system and injector cleaners. What a difference!

It would be interesting to see additional fuel system and injector cleaners tested-such as Berryman B-12, BG44K, Redline and Amsoil.

One thing I have noticed since I started to use Neutra is that I seem to have better fuel mileage. And the car runs much better.

Top
#265379 - 05/09/03 06:07 AM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
GSV Offline


Registered: 05/08/03
Posts: 696
Loc: Utah
[Cheers!]

Bob, this is a great website. Thank you for the efforts you have made to spread good information to others on the internet.

I downloaded this video at work and 3 other guys watched it and learned something from it.

[Patriot]
Greg

Top
#265380 - 05/09/03 08:29 AM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
GimmeTorq Offline


Registered: 09/23/02
Posts: 189
Loc: IL
quote:
Originally posted by Mystic:


It would be interesting to see additional fuel system and injector cleaners tested-such as Berryman B-12, BG44K, Redline and Amsoil.

That would be cool!!

Top
#265381 - 02/02/05 04:56 AM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
sxg6 Offline


Registered: 05/23/04
Posts: 2441
Loc: ME
is there any chance of these videos becoming available again?

Top
#265382 - 02/02/05 08:11 AM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
kcryan Offline


Registered: 12/17/04
Posts: 536
Loc: Rochester NY
i too would love to see them

Top
#265383 - 02/02/05 09:08 AM Re: Techron, Gunk, Stp, Lucas, Neutra... Demo
OdinsRageSS Offline


Registered: 06/25/04
Posts: 95
Loc: Schaumburg
id love to see the lucas one!

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >