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#2601069 - 04/16/12 02:54 PM Re: 2013 RAM Pickup [Re: SteveSRT8]
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
IMO the Coyote and many other Ford offerings are needlessly complicated/expensive. Counterpoint: LS7.


The dry sump, titanium rod, sodium filled valve, factory CNC'd head engine? The LS7 is no low budget engine.
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#2601137 - 04/16/12 04:15 PM Re: 2013 RAM Pickup [Re: dave1251]
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Roger that! Tis a beaut, eh? But I am speaking more to DESIGN, not individual parts.

Makes more sense now, huh? Just by adding dry sump hardware these are amazingly small and lightweight packages that fit in very small/low hoodlines, Example: Corvette.

You can always make a case for complexity, but I'm a high-miler who wants my motors to run nearly forever. Not too many modern Hi-po engines seem to fit the bill.
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#2601152 - 04/16/12 04:35 PM Re: 2013 RAM Pickup [Re: dave1251]
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Originally Posted By: dave1251
http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/pickup/163_0412_2013_ram_1500_first_look/index.html

So that all you Mopar Truck fans do not feel left out! There is some features like the "smart" grill shutters and the adjustable air suspension. I can not wait until the CAFE comments are posted on this. This ain't your grandfathers pick-up.


Ah, I see the shutters are built into the radiator. That's better than the grill... many older trucks around here look like they were driven into a few fence posts at some point...
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#2601230 - 04/16/12 06:46 PM Re: 2013 RAM Pickup [Re: dave1251]
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It looks like the HEMI gets a slight power upgrade also.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/05/2013-ram-1500-new-york-2012/
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#2601664 - 04/17/12 09:09 AM Re: 2013 RAM Pickup [Re: dave1251]
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I really like this truck! The interior is beautiful! Engine options are very respectable too. I would probably still go for the HEMI V8 just because it wouldn't have to be as hard worked to make it's rated HP.

Good job by the RAM boys.

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#2601810 - 04/17/12 11:44 AM Re: 2013 RAM Pickup [Re: SteveSRT8]
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Roger that! Tis a beaut, eh? But I am speaking more to DESIGN, not individual parts.

Makes more sense now, huh? Just by adding dry sump hardware these are amazingly small and lightweight packages that fit in very small/low hoodlines, Example: Corvette.

You can always make a case for complexity, but I'm a high-miler who wants my motors to run nearly forever. Not too many modern Hi-po engines seem to fit the bill.


I would say the LS7 doesn't really fit that bill either, though.

The complexity (speaking to 4V and DOHC, correct?) results in valve-trains that are stable (barring stock valve springs) to 8500+ rpm with fairly inexpensive stock parts and a massive mid-low lift air flow velocity advantage.

The LS7 does what it does because of the expensive, race-level parts it contains.
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