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#2508070 - 01/28/12 12:23 AM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: ahoier]
postjeeprcr Offline


Registered: 01/05/09
Posts: 1816
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: ahoier
my father taught me something, If Walamrt doesn't sell it, it probably ain't worth buying.....because they aren't going to want to deal with the huge customer complaints/etc....from an inferior product smile

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#2508390 - 01/28/12 12:05 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: postjeeprcr]
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Registered: 02/18/11
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Loc: Hudson, NH
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr
Originally Posted By: ahoier
my father taught me something, If Walamrt doesn't sell it, it probably ain't worth buying.....because they aren't going to want to deal with the huge customer complaints/etc....from an inferior product smile

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Thats NOT funny! (my dad said that too) smirk

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#2508477 - 01/28/12 01:09 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: deven]
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Posts: 3071
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One of the threads I read a long time ago that made me want to try it. Yes I am a sucker for advertising especially additives.
Tufoil test
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#2508533 - 01/28/12 01:51 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: deven]
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Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 15409
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Quote:
A super-suspension of micro-miniature PTFE particles and soluble

Molybdenum, permanently suspended in oil

I wonder what the results would be using just a moly additive.
Dupont states Teflon has no use in an engine but moly is used often and is an accepted additive in engine oil.

It looks to me like 50% snake oil at least, the Teflon part which is probably only included so they can make advertising claims like this..
Quote:
The World's most Efficient Lubricant as claimed in the Guinness Book of

World Records
A invention by an award winning inventor, Franklin Reick
The Most slippery substance known to man
A super-suspension of micro-miniature PTFE particles

Quote:
Produces the lowest friction and wear of any known lubricant as tested

I think its the moly component providing any positive results.
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#2508570 - 01/28/12 02:47 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: Trav]
LeakySeals Offline


Registered: 02/18/11
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Loc: Hudson, NH
Slick50 used to say something similar back in the day. Everybody was using it, I tried it too. And then came numerous articles disputing PTFE effectiveness. Shortly after the market dried up.

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#2521217 - 01/31/12 08:24 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: deven]
deven Offline


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A cool story and testimonial..
www.tufoil.com/images/davebarr.pdf
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#2521237 - 01/31/12 08:35 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: deven]
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For those who say that the PTFE particles can clog up oil pathway leading to premature wear, this guy(which I have talked to)has been using Mobil 1 and Tufoil from the first oil change. The car now has 612,000+ original miles and going strong. Yes it could have gone that mileage just using Mobil 1 but this is to show that PTFE particles in Tufoil will not clog up the oil passage ways at least in this engine. Talking to the owner via email, he said he never has had an engine related problem in this car.
Jeep with 612,000+ miles using Mobil 1 and Tufoil oil additive
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#2521834 - 02/01/12 12:40 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: Pablo]
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Registered: 12/04/10
Posts: 3192
Loc: TEXAS
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: deven
Could these people all be wrong

Yeah.

YEP

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#2523043 - 02/02/12 01:06 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: deven]
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Registered: 07/20/07
Posts: 3742
Loc: Northern California, USA
The Kawaski factory race team uses teflon in their oil, and they claim it gives more power (less friction), but they take apart the engine after every race. It may work for them for a few hours, but for long term use, it isn't any good. Briggs and Straton did a test with teflon in their motors, and they found it didn't work.

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#2523106 - 02/02/12 02:06 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: deven]
SteveSRT8 Offline


Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 18149
Loc: Sunny Florida
On the same page are all these:


Joseph Vaillancourt’s 2,609,698 km Plymouth Fury
Dan Edelman’s million-mile Dodge Ram
Jesse Shaffer's 446,000 mile Dodge Neon R/T
Jan Richey’s 612,000 Mile 1988 Jeep Cherokee
Bob O’Neill’s 296,349-mile Dodge Daytona: Member #4,000
Bill Rogerson’s 488,673-mile 1986 Dodge W-150 pickup
Jeff Segui's 735,000 1967 Plymouth Satellite
Bill Robinson’s 452,479-mile 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Ray Alexander’s million-mile Dodge van
Mike Shatto’s 623,000-mile 1998 Dodge Dakota
Rick Haston’s 550,000-mile Dodge Intrepid
The Grosvalds’ 300,000 Mile Jeep Cherokee
Marc Borza’s 400,000-mile 1967 Plymouth Satellite
Other car stories at allpar | 200,000 Mile Club


I don't think they all used Tufoil.
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#2523648 - 02/02/12 11:44 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: deven]
deven Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 3071
Loc: Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: deven
For those who say that the PTFE particles can clog up oil pathway leading to premature wear, this guy(which I have talked to)has been using Mobil 1 and Tufoil from the first oil change. The car now has 612,000+ original miles and going strong. Yes it could have gone that mileage just using Mobil 1 but this is to show that PTFE particles in Tufoil will not clog up the oil passage ways at least in this engine. Talking to the owner via email, he said he never has had an engine related problem in this car.
Jeep with 612,000+ miles using Mobil 1 and Tufoil oil additive


Steve, that article was to show what I bolded in my post NOT to show that Tufoil caused that engine to last that many miles.
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#2524175 - 02/03/12 01:25 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: deven]
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Loc: Oconomowoc Wi
If its got moly in it, then yes it may have some benefit. I still would not use it though....
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#2524312 - 02/03/12 03:23 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: Trajan]
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Registered: 08/24/11
Posts: 8915
Loc: Boston, MA
I've used Tufoil gun oil and general purpose oil, and the motor oil product, but that ONLY in the gearbox of a SAAB manual. There it did seem to reduce shifter effort. I would NOT use it in an auto trans or in a crankcase.
The gun oil and general purpose light oil seem to work just fine, but neither are "crankcase duty".
Dupont is pretty clear about not using it in engines, and I am sure they would like to sell more of the stuff if they could. If I am not mistaken, Duppont even sells a teflon gun oil under the Remmington name.


Edited by HerrStig (02/03/12 03:25 PM)

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#2524368 - 02/03/12 04:31 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: deven]
harry j Offline


Registered: 12/16/05
Posts: 1498
Loc: Wilmington, NC
I used to use Tufoil in my 1980 Mustang turbo, the only thing I ever noticed was the engine turned over faster at startup.

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#2524612 - 02/03/12 08:30 PM Re: Could these people all be wrong? [Re: deven]
Spector Offline


Registered: 06/10/02
Posts: 3369
Loc: Chattanooga, TN
well, I did use it many many years ago, can't prove it but my hunch is that it is the reason my main bearings had to be replaced at about 80,000 miles.

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