Recent Topics
Friction Reduction Tested, low viscosity lubs
by wemay
Today at 01:54 AM
ASTM test / determining miscibility of motor oils
by wemay
Today at 12:42 AM
Mobile 1 0W40 19.98 @ amazon & Walmart
by Pajero
Yesterday at 10:12 PM
German Scrabble Anyone?
by StevieC
Yesterday at 09:40 PM
Remington?
by bigj_16
Yesterday at 09:26 PM
Oil Filter Effect on Pressure
by bunnspecial
Yesterday at 09:19 PM
Rotela T4 -> now without API SM ?
by Yannick
Yesterday at 09:12 PM
Uh yeah, Pizza!
by StevieC
Yesterday at 08:59 PM
MotorGuard M100 install on Triton V10
by A310
Yesterday at 08:58 PM
Using cheaper filters at shorter intervals
by izz
Yesterday at 08:56 PM
3" vs 4" casters
by JHZR2
Yesterday at 07:26 PM
2001 4.6 misfire on one cylinder
by terry274
Yesterday at 07:01 PM
Buying a house! Hard to find a non hoa area.
by motor_oil_madman
Yesterday at 07:00 PM
Best Dextron Vl brand for overheating conditions
by 911Hunter
Yesterday at 06:33 PM
Engine Damage from Starting Fluid?
by StevieC
Yesterday at 05:50 PM
Opinions on bubble balancers.
by ram_man
Yesterday at 05:41 PM
FYI: EPA on "Waste Oil"
by bunnspecial
Yesterday at 05:39 PM
Small Hobby project :)
by maverickfhs
Yesterday at 04:40 PM
Castrol (3 varieties) $2/qt, O'Reilly Auto
by D60
Yesterday at 04:36 PM
F1 safety article
by Whitewolf
Yesterday at 04:30 PM
Newest Members
BobStirratt, CajunLariat, knead2no, izz, Heema
63494 Registered Users
Who's Online
19 registered (Char Baby, billt460, 911Hunter, CapriRacer, Atesz792, ATex7239, 1 invisible), 785 Guests and 15 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
63494 Members
66 Forums
274272 Topics
4559176 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Topic Options
#2432394 - 11/12/11 12:05 AM VW Jetta TDI Oil
BigO Offline


Registered: 07/05/10
Posts: 7
Loc: Calif, USA
My 2011 Jetta TDI has 10,000 mile oil change intervals. A VW service guy said it was beneficial not to change the oil before 10K intervals because the lubrication improves over time up to its 10K mark.
Can this be accurate?
I am considering getting a purepower cleanable oil filter that does a much better job at filtration. That along with Schaeffer or Amsoil and I will likely increase the interval 15K.

Top
#2432407 - 11/12/11 12:52 AM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: BigO]
BTLew81 Offline


Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1336
Loc: Illinois
Stick with OEM or Wix filters. M1 filters if you can get them. VW 504/507 oil. M1 ESP is easy to find at Pep Boys. From there, get a UOA and see if 10k is realistic.

Had an '09. Used M1 ESP and then Amsoil Euro 5w30. Either works.
_________________________
2017 VW Alltrack SE 1.8TSI
Night Blue/Black
PP Euro 0w40/OEM Filter

Top
#2432429 - 11/12/11 02:13 AM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: BigO]
zyxelenator Offline


Registered: 01/24/11
Posts: 1340
Loc: Louisville,KY
M1 0w-40,simular diesel Amsoil, should be good up to 15k, depends on driving conditions, Lubro Moly TopTec 5w-40, LM 0w-40, 5w-40 diesel around 10k, Shell t6 5w-40 raound 7k-10k
_________________________
99 Camry V6, 5 speed M/T
148k miles.Current fill:5w-30 G-oil,OVERSIZE P1, some Kreen and Ceratec added.
Lubro Moly 75w90 synthetic hypoid oil,with Moly

Top
#2432525 - 11/12/11 08:47 AM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: BigO]
BTLew81 Offline


Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1336
Loc: Illinois
Guys...this car/engine requires a VW 504/507 oil. M1 0w40 is a big no. Love the oil, but not in this application. Many will tell you no to Amsoil Euro 5w30 because it's not officially approved, but look at the specs. Impressed.

Any oil you use MUST meet specs of or be approved for 504/507. That DPF costs WAY too much to mess around with. This is not your average car/diesel.
_________________________
2017 VW Alltrack SE 1.8TSI
Night Blue/Black
PP Euro 0w40/OEM Filter

Top
#2432528 - 11/12/11 08:52 AM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: BigO]
ChiTDI Offline


Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 2193
Loc: Chicago IL
Originally Posted By: BigO
My 2011 Jetta TDI has 10,000 mile oil change intervals. A VW service guy said it was beneficial not to change the oil before 10K intervals because the lubrication improves over time up to its 10K mark.
Can this be accurate?
I am considering getting a purepower cleanable oil filter that does a much better job at filtration. That along with Schaeffer or Amsoil and I will likely increase the interval 15K.


The guy is right. I didn't believe it either at first, defies logic. As it was explained to me, the oil is designed to carry soot, and the acid triggers release of anti acid and antioxidants from the oil to neutralize it and keep the ph at a neutral level and provide the best protection. More chemistry than I care to know. Lot of the info is explained in detail on the diesel sites. Tdiclub for one. There are others.
Can't comment on the filter issue. Lot of guys go 15 -25k OCI and there UOAs are available. Driving conditions and "mods" may affect that interval. Enjoy the reading.
The 504/507 reco is accurate, might want to rethink that M1 0w40.


Edited by ChiTDI (11/12/11 08:57 AM)

Top
#2432539 - 11/12/11 09:08 AM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: BigO]
zyxelenator Offline


Registered: 01/24/11
Posts: 1340
Loc: Louisville,KY
Yeah,M1 0w-40 505 not 507. Mobil 1 ESP has one, LM Top Tec, Motul,Total,Pentosin.
_________________________
99 Camry V6, 5 speed M/T
148k miles.Current fill:5w-30 G-oil,OVERSIZE P1, some Kreen and Ceratec added.
Lubro Moly 75w90 synthetic hypoid oil,with Moly

Top
#2432806 - 11/12/11 04:32 PM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: BigO]
NateDN10 Offline


Registered: 01/10/10
Posts: 1711
Loc: Rochester, NY
You can do a search for UOAs on the 09+ TDIs. 10k OCIs seem to turn out very well. I don't know if anyone's done 15K on here.

I'd stick to the 10k recommendation with oil recommended (Castrol SLX 5W-30, M1 ESP 5W-30, etc), because TDI engines and DPFs are not cheap.
_________________________
2016 Mazda3 - 11,000 mi.
2011 Toyota Sienna - 86,000 mi.

Top
#2434049 - 11/14/11 10:22 AM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: BigO]
BMWTurboDzl Offline


Registered: 04/15/10
Posts: 1823
Loc: Atlanta,GA
M1ESP 5W-30 or dealer 507.00 motor oil. Amsoil sells a 507.00 equivalent.
_________________________
'15 435i - BMW branded Shell 5w30.
Prev
'10 335d
'06 330i
'03 330i

Top
#2434986 - 11/15/11 09:33 AM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: BigO]
Clarence_Iba Offline


Registered: 02/17/09
Posts: 131
Loc: Tulsa, OK USA
Many UOA's have shown the 10k OCI to be appropriate. Use 507.00 oils ONLY. I use Liqui-Moly Top Tec 4200 purchased from idparts.com with their oil change kit. Enjoy the car, it's an awesome drive. I love mine.


Edited by Clarence_Iba (11/15/11 09:35 AM)
_________________________
2014 Subaru Outback 2.5 Limited
2016 Mazda 6 Grand Touring

Top
#2435094 - 11/15/11 11:22 AM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: BigO]
BTLew81 Offline


Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1336
Loc: Illinois
Loved mine too, but the TDI wasnt the best option with my shortened commute. I used ESP and then Amsoil Euro. Personally, the Amsoil gave me slightly better MPG, but both are great.

I did, however, really like the Amsoil Cetane Boost and Cold Flow improver. Great products that noticeably improved MPG, pep, and cold performance characteristics.
_________________________
2017 VW Alltrack SE 1.8TSI
Night Blue/Black
PP Euro 0w40/OEM Filter

Top
#2436139 - 11/16/11 09:19 AM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: BigO]
Clarence_Iba Offline


Registered: 02/17/09
Posts: 131
Loc: Tulsa, OK USA
I've driven MANY 2.5's as rental cars recently. The SE trim is way below the standard the 2010 set. How is your SEL?
_________________________
2014 Subaru Outback 2.5 Limited
2016 Mazda 6 Grand Touring

Top
#2437848 - 11/17/11 11:34 PM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: Clarence_Iba]
BTLew81 Offline


Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1336
Loc: Illinois
Very nice. Had several MkV Jettas. While this one is different, the 2.5 is way improved over my 05.5. Nice ride, good handling, still a German feel. Miss some things about the MkV, but my 11 is a very nice car.
_________________________
2017 VW Alltrack SE 1.8TSI
Night Blue/Black
PP Euro 0w40/OEM Filter

Top
#2443082 - 11/23/11 05:37 PM Re: VW Jetta TDI Oil [Re: BigO]
2cool Offline


Registered: 07/13/11
Posts: 698
Loc: Delaware
I installed a Purepower filter on my 7.3 Powerstroke. It's fantastic!! When I change the oil, it literally takes weeks for the oil to darken enough to see it on the dipstick. You don't throw the filter into the landfill, and it will last the life of the engine.

Top