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#2189551 - 03/05/11 11:14 AM oil for drag racing
HighStrung Offline


Registered: 02/16/11
Posts: 6
Loc: Western NY
Hello all,

I am new to the forums. I drag race a 225" racetech dragter with a 468 BBC on methanol ( roller lifters). The builder of the engine recommended that I use Pennzoil 10w-40 and change it every 20 passes. I did that last year and have apparently not had any issues. ( although I have yet to pull a rod bearing a look for wear). With all the reading on the website, talking with friends that I race with, I see opinions on oil are like a$$holes...we all got one. So given that, I am looking for some more opinions on oils for drag racing with a Meth engine and some recommendations on weights. I have been looking at the Brad Penn oils in 10w-40 and at the Rotella T 15w-40. Anybody have any experience with the oils? Any opinions? Thanks for any help! -Mark


Edited by HighStrung (03/05/11 11:15 AM)

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#2189563 - 03/05/11 11:32 AM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: HighStrung]
DrDusty86 Offline


Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 1491
Loc: TX
REdline, or RP XPR 3.1. FYI oil opinions are like religions everybody WORSHIPS one...but some are just CRAZY. A$$holes is when some people's opinion stinks...HHHAAAHHH

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#2189578 - 03/05/11 11:42 AM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: HighStrung]
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Registered: 03/21/10
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The Brad Penn Penn Grade 1 oils are pretty decent race oils from my experience. I run the straight 40 wt. in my street/strip Dodge 440. You may want to try this oil over a 10w-40 even if you're going to change it often due to the methanol. Pennzoil GT 25w-50 is supposed to be a decent oil also. At my local track, most of the higher class racers tend to use Penn Grade 1 although some do use Valvoline VR-1. Good luck and hope I have been a little bit of help.

P.S. Welcome to the Forums! smile


Edited by Hemi426 (03/05/11 11:50 AM)

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#2189584 - 03/05/11 11:44 AM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: HighStrung]
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A great one is Amsoil Dominator series. Purpose built racing oil.

The number one Ford builder uses Royal Purple XPR.

Lots of choices.
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#2189613 - 03/05/11 12:13 PM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: SteveSRT8]
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Registered: 02/23/09
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
A great one is Amsoil Dominator series. Purpose built racing oil.

The number one Ford builder uses Royal Purple XPR.

Lots of choices.


This. I know that really like RP...
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#2189624 - 03/05/11 12:30 PM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: HighStrung]
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Registered: 12/04/10
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Loc: TEXAS
everyone i know running alcohol use vr1 20/50 or sae50

rotella is a good oil but the high detergents tend to foam with high rpms
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#2189634 - 03/05/11 12:40 PM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: HighStrung]
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With an engine like that, I'd tend to go for a true racing oil. Add another vote for Redline or Royal Purple XPR.
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#2189641 - 03/05/11 12:49 PM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: 440Magnum]
Hemi426 Offline


Registered: 03/21/10
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Penn Grade 1 is a true racing oil. Tom Hemphill from Clarkburgh, PA uses it in his Top Sportsman engine and many race engine builders recommend it.

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#2189735 - 03/05/11 01:51 PM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: HighStrung]
electrolover Offline


Registered: 12/04/10
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Loc: TEXAS
since no one has mentioned joe gibbs i will. its probably the best race oil out there.

vr1 is also a "true race oil" and affordable.
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#2189757 - 03/05/11 02:12 PM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: HighStrung]
Torino Offline


Registered: 12/01/04
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Loc: Henderson, Nevada
Redline.

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#2189796 - 03/05/11 02:48 PM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: HighStrung]
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Registered: 04/07/09
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I use Conklin 20w-50 racing and have had excellent results on methanol
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#2189826 - 03/05/11 03:23 PM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: HighStrung]
HighStrung Offline


Registered: 02/16/11
Posts: 6
Loc: Western NY
Keep it coming...taking it all in....I appreciate the responses!

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#2190002 - 03/05/11 06:55 PM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: Hemi426]
440Magnum Offline


Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 8570
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: Hemi426
Penn Grade 1 is a true racing oil. Tom Hemphill from Clarkburgh, PA uses it in his Top Sportsman engine and many race engine builders recommend it.


Maybe... but Brad Penn's advertising turns me off. They practically brag that the crude is so good that they hardly have to refine it at all (yes, I'm exaggerating a little). NOT a selling point in my book...

As others mentioned, there are other good racing oils out there- Gibbs, Roush, Valvoline, Amsoil. But for the OP's engine, I stand by my pick of Redline or RP XPR.
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#2190012 - 03/05/11 07:04 PM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: 440Magnum]
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Registered: 03/21/10
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Loc: PA
He's going to be changing the oil every 20-25 runs. I doubt he wants to use something that costs $10-11 per qt. I don't know how many quarts his sump holds but a boutique oil would get very expensive very quickly.


Edited by Hemi426 (03/05/11 07:12 PM)

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#2190183 - 03/05/11 09:20 PM Re: oil for drag racing [Re: Hemi426]
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Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: Hemi426
He's going to be changing the oil every 20-25 runs. I doubt he wants to use something that costs $10-11 per qt. I don't know how many quarts his sump holds but a boutique oil would get very expensive very quickly.


That's a very good point and certainly argues in favor of a less expensive oil... but then rebuilding the engine is even more expensive. At any rate, if it were mine I'd feel better with something a little more robust than a street car oil like PYB 10w40. I'd also research what oils are the most methanol tolerant.
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