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#2145119 - 01/20/11 06:06 PM polaris sportsman transmision fluid
aking Offline


Registered: 07/17/10
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Loc: Wisconsin
Hello I recently changed the transmision fluid in my 04 sportsman 500. I was almost positive it was gear oil so I used Amsoil severe gear 75w-90. I now know that the Polaris oil wasn't that thick. It has been opperating just fine but was wondering if I should change it our would it just be fine. Thanks for your input in advance

Austin

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#2145159 - 01/20/11 06:40 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: aking]
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Get that stuff out of there! Use the Polaris drive fluid, you can use type F. Dif fluid and Trans fluid are two totally different things.
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#2145161 - 01/20/11 06:42 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: aking]
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According to my info the transmission is a CVT type that uses a special CVT fluid with the viscosity of an ATF.

I would highly recommend you check your owners manual for fluid types and fills before it potentially gets ruined.
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#2145236 - 01/20/11 07:44 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: MolaKule]
aking Offline


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I believe the transmission and the differential are the same. I read the manual again and it says use the Polaris gear lubricant but then for the 600 and 700 it says to use that or gl5 80w-90. I alway seem to think I know what I'm doin but I guess not duh

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#2145275 - 01/20/11 08:18 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: aking]
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Originally Posted By: aking
I believe the transmission and the differential are the same. I read the manual again and it says use the Polaris gear lubricant but then for the 600 and 700 it says to use that or gl5 80w-90. I alway seem to think I know what I'm doin but I guess not duh


I don't think you can do wrong with a Type F or Dexron III tranny fluid. What year is this??
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#2145307 - 01/20/11 08:39 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: aking]
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Registered: 12/16/06
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The Polaris 500 has front rear end that does take the 80w90 gear oil. The rear transmission/drive is a multi task system that is composed of the rear drive and transmission. This takes Polaris AGL ( Atv Gearcase Lubricant) as Polaris likes to call it. It has AGL real big on the bottle and will set you back about $13 bucks a quart. Many argue about its true composition, It resembles ATF fluid, except it is purple. I have heard some claim it is ATF Type F and it is ATF Type Dextron. I can say, I have had Polaris atvs, since 1992, before Polaris had their own line of polaris Pure lubricants and back then polaris said to use Sae 30 wt motor oil in the transmission and later years said to use 10w30 motor oil. I have friends that use 5w20 synthetic oil, without problems. I bite the bullet and use the AGL and change it annually. Amsoil has a Gearcase oil of their own, but it costs more than the Polaris brand(which is also Synthetic, so it doesnt really make much sense to use it, unless you are die-hard Amsoil fan. The 500 holds one qt. Of AGL. Regardless the gear oil definetely doesnt go back there and you do need to change it out. I seriously doubt you did any damage, the Polaris transmissions are pretty tuff and rugged and are not real fussy. I few I bought used, I drained out what looked like rusty water and they still worked fine.
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#2145316 - 01/20/11 08:47 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: Panzerman]
aking Offline


Registered: 07/17/10
Posts: 30
Loc: Wisconsin
ok thanks for the information I apprieciate it. Do you think it will be fine if it doesn't get changed out soon? It doesn't get used much if any in the winter.

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#2145317 - 01/20/11 08:49 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: aking]
Panzerman Offline


Registered: 12/16/06
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Loc: Port Orange, Florida
The 600, 700 and 800 have a different system, they actaully have a front and rear end, besides the transmision and have 80w90 in the rear ends(which Polaris calls Angle shaft drive and polaris hub drive in the front or some whacked out name, to confuse you so you buy their product and are afraid to try to subsitute. They have all these crazy names and alot of times the polaris dealer doesnt even know what goes where. Believe it or not, I actaully went by smelling what came out and what went where, when I changed all the fluids in my 700, its that bad. Some of the Polaris's take Polaris drive in the front for the Hillard clutchs instaed of gear oil. Dont feel bad, they really made it confusing by not giving subsitute oils to use. Greed to sell theirt own line of lubricants and nothing more.
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#2145327 - 01/20/11 08:54 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: aking]
Panzerman Offline


Registered: 12/16/06
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Loc: Port Orange, Florida
I would change it out pretty quick, as soon as possible. Only for the fact that the gear oil may have a adverse effect on seals or different metals inside the case. Especially since those seals or some metals in there were never meant to be in gear oil. Motor oil wont hurt anything or atf. But gear oil may cause swelling or galling.
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#2145938 - 01/21/11 12:08 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: aking]
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I know a few here are guessing, I am not and have over 10 yrs of finding the correct AMSOIL Products to replace Polaris Lubes.

I have a 2004 Owners manual in front of me.

transmission - Polaris Premium Synthetic Gear Case lube
DO NOT USE ATF, its a SAE 80 gear lube

The AMSOIL to use is Series 2000 ChainCase Lube for this application and to replace these below.

Polaris
Synthetic Gearcase Lube
#2871280
#2871478
SCL Chaincase Lubricant
#2872951
#2872952
#2873105
#2873106
AGL ATV Gearcase Lubricant
#2873602
#2873603
#2873604

I actually have a customer with the exact year and model.

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#2145973 - 01/21/11 12:27 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: Mike_dup1]
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Here is the actual page from the 2004 Sportsman 500

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#2145997 - 01/21/11 12:41 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: aking]
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AGL stands for Angle Drive Fluid and its a gear lube, use 89W-90 or 75W-90
Demand Drive Hub fluid is a low viscosity hydraulic fluid
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#2146294 - 01/21/11 03:52 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: aking]
Panzerman Offline


Registered: 12/16/06
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Loc: Port Orange, Florida
AGL stands for ATV Gearcase lubricant and is the proper thing to put in the transmission. It is not a gear oil. It is very thin and resembles ATF, except it is purple not red. The demand drive is Green and also thin. The angle shaft oil is Gear oil and the smell reflects this. You are in incorrect. I have 9 Polaris's currently. I have owned well over a dozen polaris atvs over the years. Including 500 Sportsman. I was forced to become familar with the fluids.
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#2146306 - 01/21/11 04:01 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: Panzerman]
aking Offline


Registered: 07/17/10
Posts: 30
Loc: Wisconsin
changed the gear lube out and put the AGL in. The AGL stuff is really thin like motor oil, is dark colored and has a real different smell.

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#2146311 - 01/21/11 04:03 PM Re: polaris sportsman transmision fluid [Re: aking]
Panzerman Offline


Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 3989
Loc: Port Orange, Florida
I am not sure what manual you are reading out of, probably the Sportsman for 500,600,700 and 800. Because the 500 has no rear gear case(no rearend) the CV joints to the wheels come directly out of the transmission housing to the wheels. This is the transmission/gearcase. The 400 and 335 polaris Sportsman should be the same as the 500. If it is a magnum or a model without independant suspension, it would be different.


Edited by Panzerman (01/21/11 04:03 PM)
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