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#1770214 - 02/05/10 07:35 PM Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol
JustinC25 Offline


Registered: 08/19/04
Posts: 807
Loc: NH
Just like the title says, Which brake fluid for my 1995 Camry, and my 2003 Ford Windstar ?

I will be doing a complete brake flush.

Both have the original fluid, and have never been changed.
See my sig for the mileage.

Which do you guys think is better ? The Valvoline seems to have the best temp numbers. They are all marketed as synthetic, and Dot 4 fluids. I plan on doing a 1 year change interval, as the process is fairly straight forward, and the fluid is cheap.

What are your thoughts ?

Thanks,
Justin
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#1770218 - 02/05/10 07:37 PM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: JustinC25]
BovineScapegoat Offline


Registered: 11/06/09
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Loc: Southern Ontario
My opinion would be that it really doesn't matter. Use a big name brand from a sealed container.
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#1770228 - 02/05/10 07:47 PM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: BovineScapegoat]
defektes Offline


Registered: 09/09/09
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All are good, I personally use valvoline/NAPA in all my applications.
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#1770253 - 02/05/10 08:09 PM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: defektes]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
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Whats cheapest?
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#1770263 - 02/05/10 08:20 PM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: Chris142]
JustinC25 Offline


Registered: 08/19/04
Posts: 807
Loc: NH
Prestone is $6, Valvoline is $7, and the Castrol is $8.

All prices are for the 32 oz bottle.

Cost is not a factor, as they are all under $10.00
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#1770264 - 02/05/10 08:21 PM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: Chris142]
endeavor to persevere Offline


Registered: 04/10/05
Posts: 496
Loc: Middle Tennessee
I like castrol GT LMA. It has always worked well for me. But there is probably not that much difference in name brand brake fluids.
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#1770309 - 02/05/10 08:55 PM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: DLE]
JustinC25 Offline


Registered: 08/19/04
Posts: 807
Loc: NH
Most of those are hard to come by out here in New England.
Though the ATE Super Blue can be purchased from my local Subaru dealer for $16.00 a quart. It's a little more than I want to spend.

I even thought about using the supertech stuff, but it's only DOT 3.
I figure I'll upgrade to DOT 4 if I'm doing the flush.

Maybe I'll use it on grandpa's truck. (He's cheap, and doesn't care) I'm sure the truck won't mind. It's a '93 and it has the original fluid.
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#1770355 - 02/05/10 09:25 PM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: JustinC25]
MCompact Offline


Registered: 07/21/02
Posts: 3223
Loc: KY
I use ATE Super Blue, but my second choice would be Castrol LMA.
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#1770598 - 02/06/10 04:58 AM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: MCompact]
mjoekingz28 Offline


Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 3787
Loc: Mississippi
I cheaped out and got 2 quarts of Wearever from AAP for $5.

Only used about a pint of one of them to flush all four bleeders.


Make sure your grandpa knows about clutches. Mine can drive one, but somehow didnt know the difference between the clutch and brake and everytime I said down only a drop would come out because he was hitting the wrong pedal.

Almost gave up and quit but just happened to watch him do it when I tried a different wheel. Kind of funny now, but a bit frustrating at the moment.



PS, you'll be glad you did the flush. I now get a much firmer pedal (almost solid now). I like it alot. It seems to use pressure now instead of distance traveled to actuate.


Edited by mjoekingz28 (02/06/10 05:00 AM)

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#1770636 - 02/06/10 07:17 AM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: mjoekingz28]
JustinC25 Offline


Registered: 08/19/04
Posts: 807
Loc: NH
Thanks guys,

I just did my Camry this morning with Valvoline Synthetic Dot 4 fluid. I did it by myself with an old water bottle, some clear vinal tubing, and a coat hanger to hold the bottle. I just started with some fluid in the bottle (above the tube) so it wouldn't suck any air back in. Then I opened the bleader, climbed in and pumped the brakes. Then just kept checking the master cylinder. It took about 20 pumps per bleader, and I went through 1 32oz bottle.
(I bought 2) I'm not sure if my van will take any more than this. I'll probably pick up some more fluid today before I do it.
I'll probably do grandpa's truck myself as well. (that's a good point about the brake, vs. the clutch). Honestly the only hard part was climbing in and out of the car through the window.
(I have an a symetrical lift so you can't open the doors when the car is in the air)
I think I'll do grandma's Camry too if I have time today.
I'm going to the range with grandma today to sight in her new .38
Then I have to change the oil in the van, and the brake fluid.
Thanks Again
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'10 Camry 2.5 6 spd 78k PP 0w20
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'02 Outback 2.5 194k Total Classic 5w30 Union Sangyo C-840 Filter

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#1770748 - 02/06/10 09:35 AM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: JustinC25]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 8789
Loc: Western NY
I just bought WEAREVER DOT3 B1G1 free from AAP for about $5.99 for the qt bottles($3/qt). They had the 12oz bottles B1G1 free for about $2.99($1.50 ea)
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#1771032 - 02/06/10 01:13 PM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: JustinC25]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
Justin - With brake fluid, anybody's is just fine. And this is coming from a lube and snake oil guy!

But your bleed method is relying on luck. You really need to open and shut the bleeder in concert with a helper pressing and releasing the brake pedal. Your method is only guaranteed to work with speed bleeders - an aftermarket replacement. Or use a vacuum like a Mity Vac. Super easy.

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#1771295 - 02/06/10 04:59 PM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: mechtech2]
crinkles Offline


Registered: 05/28/07
Posts: 5555
Loc: Australia
Toyota uses DOT3 I believe.

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#1771800 - 02/07/10 12:48 AM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: crinkles]
calvinnnnnnnnn Offline


Registered: 02/27/08
Posts: 586
Loc: ca
You should more concerned with the Wet and Dry boiling points. THe higher the better!
Dot3 has a minimum of 284.
scroll down to the table and then read the definitions
http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml
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#1772553 - 02/07/10 03:26 PM Re: Which Brake Fluid ? Prestone Valvoline or Castrol [Re: calvinnnnnnnnn]
ps49556n Offline


Registered: 01/07/10
Posts: 124
Loc: NYC
Brand really isn't important... what is important is that you follow your mfg's guidelines on whether the recommend dot 3 or 4 and even more important....use FRESH fluid... when servicing the break system use an unopened bottle and discard the rest unless you have another car to do. Brake fluid does not save well

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