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Fram tough guard or Wix air filter? #1759962
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Just wonder what you guys think.

Wix is known for quality all around, yet the lightly oiled media of the tough guard is appealing.

and my car does see more dust than the average.. gravel roads and whatnot.

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Re: Fram tough guard or Wix air filter? [Re: Texan4Life] #1760038
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As bad a rap as FRAM takes, most will agree they make excellent air filters. I've always had good luck with FRAM air filters. Saying that, I have WIX in one of my cars now.

I was a Texan4Life for 40-years, then I lost my brains and moved to WI 20-years ago.
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I've recently used both in my Civic. The Fram is definitely well-made and I didn't have a problem using it. I don't do UOA's on this car so I don't really know how great the filtration is on either.


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Re: Fram tough guard or Wix air filter? [Re: Texan4Life] #1760082
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Originally Posted By: Texan4Life
Just wonder what you guys think.

Wix is known for quality all around, yet the lightly oiled media of the tough guard is appealing.

and my car does see more dust than the average.. gravel roads and whatnot.


First of all welcome

Answer to the question is depends on the app.

Read this thread on my concerns of WIX air filters for my Toyota Corolla with photos. --> Not impressed with WIX Air Filters

I've used quite a few Fram Air Filters with excellent results over the years. UOAs come back with single digit SI so they work well.

And I live in a VERY dusty area.

Take care, Bill

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I use Fram on my Saturn ever since I had a 1" hole in my Napa Gold (Wix) air filter in 7,000 miles. Now, with 70,000 miles using Fram no problems.


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I use a MANN Air filter in my car, bought for $8 on amazon, made in usa (unlike alot of frams) and the quality is outstanding.

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thx guys gonna go with the fram TG but will probably order a wix to see what I think about it.


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I just bought a WIX filter for my 2003 Sienna with the 1MZ-FE engine.
WIX # 46017
It does have a soft gasket all the way around.....for top and bottom sealing.

I have also used FRAM air filters in the past and been very happy with them.

Sorry, could not resist getting Gus in the picture.

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well the wix came in tonight (dumb fedex) anyway thought you guys would enjoy some side by side pics

both seem good quality and both have nice soft flexible gaskets.

wix, made in Mexico, has 92 pleats
fram TG, made in Canada, has 74 pleats









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thanks for the pics!

i just got a fram myself. i like the fram and stp filters.


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I have used Wix air filter's very well built so many pleats compared to other manufactures I have wondered if they are to restrictive, the Fram panel air filter's are well built, the Fram radial air filters are not, this year I am going to try the Fram Tough Guard CA3901, I do have concerns over reading post that the oil coating can effect sensors but I will take the chance.


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Originally Posted By: Toto
I have used Wix air filter's very well built so many pleats compared to other manufactures I have wondered if they are to restrictive, the Fram panel air filter's are well built, the Fram radial air filters are not, this year I am going to try the Fram Tough Guard CA3901, I do have concerns over reading post that the oil coating can effect sensors but I will take the chance.


First of all welcome

The oiled Fram that I put in my Mom's truck looked like only one side of it was oiled. I doubt you have ANYTHING to worry about. Its a good filter.

Her SI in the UOAS have been single digits every time with it.

Bill

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Bill so is the oiling of filters marketing Kool-aid for you? why the need for oiled filters? standard filters are not oiled and they work fine up till FRAM and Purolator came out with them?

i have used both WIX and oiled FRAMS both seen like quality filters to me.


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Originally Posted By: daman
Bill so is the oiling of filters marketing Kool-aid for you? why the need for oiled filters? standard filters are not oiled and they work fine up till FRAM and Purolator came out with them?

i have used both WIX and oiled FRAMS both seen like quality filters to me.


Agreed.

Reason for the oiled Fram that I bought for her truck? They were on close out at Wal-Mart. $7 for a filter than normally costs $10 for the regular one was what I bought.

The oil prob does work a LITTLE better than the normal ones in very dusty use but will load up quicker.

Personally, I don't use them and never have a problem. And the oiled Frams are built to the same as their normal filters.

Bill

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Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: daman
Bill so is the oiling of filters marketing Kool-aid for you? why the need for oiled filters? standard filters are not oiled and they work fine up till FRAM and Purolator came out with them?

i have used both WIX and oiled FRAMS both seen like quality filters to me.


Agreed.

Reason for the oiled Fram that I bought for her truck? They were on close out at Wal-Mart. $7 for a filter than normally costs $10 for the regular one was what I bought.

The oil prob does work a LITTLE better than the normal ones in very dusty use but will load up quicker.

Personally, I don't use them and never have a problem. And the oiled Frams are built to the same as their normal filters.

Bill

i have the oiled FRAM in one of mine now,i guess it kinda makes sense that yea a oiled media would trap more particles but with out some sort of testing between the two we'll never know,it was the only one on hand for my app the day i needed it, i think i payed $9 for it.


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