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#1734036 - 01/07/10 07:05 AM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: brianl703]
labman Offline


Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 8711
Loc: Nothern USA
Could be they put up signs in tricky spots where there is a hidden dip or something.

It wasn't in PA, but I once was stuck behind a pickup doing about 35 in a 55 zone. The road had a series of short hills and dips. Finally I came up to the top of one hill where I could see the next few dips didn't have any traffic. I was in my Grand Am with a 5 speed and a HO Quad 4. I caught 2'nd, and blew by the guy catching 3'rd at 70 beside him. I bet the old coot griped about me the rest of his life.

Oh, yeah, I have driven US 30 in Pa far more than I care to have. My dad hated it.

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#1734091 - 01/07/10 08:07 AM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: labman]
AuthorEditor Offline


Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 1908
Loc: New York
It just seems crazy to have different traffic laws in different states, but that's the good ol' USA! Reminds me of a joke I heard once. In New Brunswick they were planning for the switch from driving on the left to driving on the right, so they decided to require trucks to do it first to ease the transition.

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#1734101 - 01/07/10 08:15 AM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: AuthorEditor]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 30368
Loc: ME
Reading my cousin's drivers ed manual it is/was apparantly legal to pass on a solid single yellow in Vermont. Now that I think about it I don't recall seeing a solid single yellow in a very long time, anywhere.

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#1734137 - 01/07/10 08:47 AM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: Audi Junkie]
SlowGT Offline


Registered: 01/04/10
Posts: 11
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
3305 describes normal passing conditions.

A careful reading of 3307 yields (pun intended) this gem:

"Signs shall be placed to indicate the beginning and end of each no-passing zone."

as well as: "Where signs *and* markings are in place"


So, no signs, pass on double yellow is legal.

Right?


i don't know...the 'fine print' at the end could be interpreted differently:
"...or on the left side of any pavement striping designed to mark a no-passing zone throughout its length."

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#1734243 - 01/07/10 10:59 AM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: AuthorEditor]
bruno Offline


Registered: 10/08/07
Posts: 468
Loc: new Jersey
I think the rule is don't cross over the double yellow !

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#1734310 - 01/07/10 12:15 PM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: bruno]
jcwit Offline


Registered: 07/24/07
Posts: 3518
Loc: no. indiana
I was always under the asumption not to cross the yellow line, the second yellow line was for the other lane/driver and was of no concern to me.

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#1734314 - 01/07/10 12:19 PM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: AuthorEditor]
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Registered: 05/31/08
Posts: 1006
Loc: Montreal, Quebec in Canada
Originally Posted By: AuthorEditor
It just seems crazy to have different traffic laws in different states, but that's the good ol' USA!

It is even worst in Canada: In Quebec, flashing green light means that that the opposite has a red and you can turn (left) with confidence. In BC, flashing green light means pedestrians have priority over the car so you basically have to wait and be sure before doing a left turn.

So now, guess what happens the first time a Quebecor meets a flashing green light when driving in BC? Sometimes a crash with a car coming the opposite way, at least some horns and pedestrians yelling at you.

Still hoping for an united Canada?
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#1734693 - 01/07/10 07:05 PM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: Pesca]
PT1 Offline


Registered: 02/06/07
Posts: 5746
Loc: near the mistake
Originally Posted By: Pesca

It is even worst in Canada: In Quebec, flashing green light means that that the opposite has a red and you can turn (left) with confidence. In BC, flashing green light means pedestrians have priority over the car so you basically have to wait and be sure before doing a left turn.


That is why they put all of those provinces in between the two....saves lives...imagine if they were next to each other. OMG...the devastation the humanity!!!!
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#1734699 - 01/07/10 07:06 PM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: AuthorEditor]
PT1 Offline


Registered: 02/06/07
Posts: 5746
Loc: near the mistake
Originally Posted By: AuthorEditor
I keep reading on the Internet that it is legal to pass on a double yellow line in PA, but I can't find any back up for that in PA statutes. Is that just another Internet rumor? Anyone have proof you can pass on a double yellow in PA? It would seem crazy if it is against the law in most other states.


I say we all chip in for one of them line paint trucks and sneak into PA. at night and paint a 3rd yellow line all over the state just to throw em off.... slobber Then change all the laws to read: "You may only pass IF the second yellow line is on your side of the road" crzy


Edited by PT1 (01/07/10 07:09 PM)
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#1734715 - 01/07/10 07:14 PM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: brianl703]
Veilside Offline


Registered: 09/02/09
Posts: 63
Loc: Murfreesboro, TN
my logic; it's not illegal until a cop see's you do it. that being said, double yellow means no passing. you may pass on the side of the roadway with yellow dashes.
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#1734723 - 01/07/10 07:19 PM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: Veilside]
HTSS_TR Offline


Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 19528
Loc: Lake Forest, CA
Double yellow means no passing, but is it legal to make a left turn crossing it ?

It is not legal to cross a double yellow to make a left turn in California, how about your state ?
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#1734754 - 01/07/10 07:40 PM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: HTSS_TR]
AuthorEditor Offline


Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 1908
Loc: New York
I have to cross a double yellow to make a left turn every morning on my way to work here in NY. I see the police doing it all the time, and the double yellow is worn pretty thin from everyone doing it. It is a state highway too. So, I'm assuming it is legal to make a left turn over a double yellow in NY. On the other hand, I'm nearly 100% sure that is illegal to pass when there is a double yellow.

Sometimes I wonder if they just use a lot of yellow because they buy the paint in bulk and they need to use it up. Someone asked the NY DOT why they have such slippery tar in all the tar snakes, causing lots of motorcycle grief, and the answer from someone in the DOT was that they weren't going to change the tar, even though they knew it was a problem, until they used up their current stock.

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#1734760 - 01/07/10 07:43 PM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: HTSS_TR]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 14746
Loc: apple valley, ca
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Double yellow means no passing, but is it legal to make a left turn crossing it ?

It is not legal to cross a double yellow to make a left turn in California, how about your state ?
It is legal to cross a double Yellow in Ca as long as your pulling into a driveway or masking a U-Turn.

You can even make a U-Turn on a double yellow if you wish.

"A U-turn is turning around in the street to go back the way you came. To make a U-turn, signal and use the far left lane or the center left turn lane. You may make a U-turn:

Across a double yellow line when it is safe and legal."

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/turns.htm


"You may cross over a double solid yellow line to make a left turn at an intersection, to enter or exit a road or a driveway, or to make a U-turn, if it can be ..."

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/curriculum/Unit%204.pdf

You can't cross a double double yellow at any time.
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#1734910 - 01/07/10 09:26 PM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: HTSS_TR]
brianl703 Offline


Registered: 05/07/04
Posts: 10491
Loc: Manassas, VA
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Double yellow means no passing, but is it legal to make a left turn crossing it ?

It is not legal to cross a double yellow to make a left turn in California, how about your state ?


It is absolutely legal to cross a double yellow to make a left turn in Virginia. If it weren't, you could go 10 miles out of your way to find a place to make a U-turn.

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#1734993 - 01/07/10 10:37 PM Re: Legal to pass on 2X yellow in PA? [Re: Chris142]
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Registered: 12/21/03
Posts: 12385
Loc: Northern CA
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Double yellow means no passing, but is it legal to make a left turn crossing it ?

It is not legal to cross a double yellow to make a left turn in California, how about your state ?
It is legal to cross a double Yellow in Ca as long as your pulling into a driveway or masking a U-Turn.

You can even make a U-Turn on a double yellow if you wish.

"A U-turn is turning around in the street to go back the way you came. To make a U-turn, signal and use the far left lane or the center left turn lane. You may make a U-turn:

Across a double yellow line when it is safe and legal."

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/turns.htm


"You may cross over a double solid yellow line to make a left turn at an intersection, to enter or exit a road or a driveway, or to make a U-turn, if it can be ..."


Chris, there are bunch of gotcha places you can't make a U turn over a double yellow in California

From your source
Quote:

Never make a U-turn:

In business districts. Areas with churches, apartments, multiple dwelling houses, clubs, and public buildings (except schools) are also considered to be business districts. Turn only at an intersection or where openings are provided for turns.
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