VOA's: Amsoil MTF & Redline MTL

[4wheels]

 

[Audi Junkie]

Their format is hard to read. They should use a larger font CAPITAL letter on top of the elements and justify the text to the top, rather than the bottom. "P"otassium

 

[Pablo]

Wow - thanks for doing this. Very close in elemental adds.

 

[Boomer]

Interesting that iron is between 5-7 in the virgin fluids!

 

[JohnBrowning]

Wow I might have to give Amsoil's new MTL a try some time just so I have another choice to recomend. I have to admit though I am partial to ester's over PAO given the choice. It is smart though for Amsoil to copy Redline as Redline MTL has been in a class by itself for a super long time! It never pays to reinvent the wheel when you can just copy someone else's wheel and have an instantly great product!I still have a while before I need to change out my lube in transmission.

 

[JohnBrowning]

Wow I might have to give Amsoil's new MTL a try some time just so I have another choice to recomend. I have to admit though I am partial to ester's over PAO given the choice. It is smart though for Amsoil to copy Redline as Redline MTL has been in a class by itself for a super long time! It never pays to reinvent the wheel when you can just copy someone else's wheel and have an instantly great product!I still have a while before I need to change out my lube in transmission.

 

[unDummy]

Amsoil didn't copy Redline. They both copied Synchromesh!!!!

Great data. Amsoil is a point thinner at temp.

With many new fluids showing up with doses of Boron, makes me wonder if they'll need to 'reformulate' with newer technology.

 

[4wheels]

And Synchromesh has an even stronger additive package, with similar viscosity to Amsoil.

 

[unDummy]

Yes, synchromesh is 'loaded' but doesn't have the group4/5 basestocks.

 

[D-Roc]

Thanks for the VOA's...nice to see two products which are on my potential usage list.

 

[MolaKule]

Quote:
Yes, synchromesh is 'loaded' but doesn't have the group4/5 basestocks.


In actuality, the original Blue/Silver labeled bottle of GM Synchromesh contained some GroupV base oil in it for low temp operation.

 

[unDummy]

Define "some"? and which PN?

 

[MolaKule]

The GroupV was an alkylated Benzene, similar to the alkylated naphthalene or AN.

The next time I come across a bottle, I will get the part number off of it. As I recall, it had some Delco wording on the label.

 

[MolaKule]

The GroupV was an alkylated Benzene, similar to the alkylated naphthalene or AN.

The next time I come across a bottle, I will get the part number off of it. As I recall, it had some Delco wording on the label.

 

[Tempest]

It's hard to see the "real" potency of these fluids without a sulfur count. The sulfur would provide the heavy duty EP.

 

[Steve S]

I wonder if trans fluids require EP adds?

 

[d00df00d]

They require some, I think (how much depends on the type of fluid).

 

[Tempest]

Redline advertises their oil as a GL-4. I don't think you can make a GL-4 without sulfur or chlorine (and I don't think they use the latter).

 

[sprintman]

I use Rl MTL in my BMW but it's to thick in winter (amazing when hot). Would the MTF be better in winter (easier cold shifting) than the MTL?

 

[MolaKule]

Quote:
Redline advertises their oil as a GL-4. I don't think you can make a GL-4 without sulfur or chlorine (and I don't think they use the latter).


The Extreme Pressure agent is a P-S combo, while the AW agent is a usually ZDDP. These are both GL4 rated oils with about 60% of the EP package found in GL5 differential lubes.

The oils shown are both synchromesh oils with about 1200 ppm of P and 3000+ ppm of sulfur with included buffering compounds.

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