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#1592346 - 09/07/09 07:39 PM Ester content in Pennzoil Platinum?
CompSyn Offline

Registered: 05/11/08
Posts: 325
Loc: Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: buster
Esters, AO's, ashless AW additives etc. PP has esters too btw.

PP has such value and performance because they use Shells famous Group III base oils in conjunction with a top notch additive package. The Group III+ base oil they use may not be good for 20k miles, but for reasonable drain intervals it will hold up as good as any PAO based oil IMO. UOA's show this to be the case.

Buster, help me out on this.

I found this MSDS sheet for 5W-30 Pennzoil Platinum and have identified the following ingredients:

Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated light paraffinic

Zinc alkyl dithiophosphate

Molybdenum disulphide

It also says: "Blend of polyolefins and additives"

How do you identify Ester content in Pennzoil Platinum?

#1592355 - 09/07/09 07:52 PM Re: Ester content in Pennzoil Platinum? [Re: CompSyn]
Falcon_LS Online   content

Registered: 10/03/08
Posts: 3856
Loc: Kuwait
If memory serves me right, PP 5W-20 has some ester content in it. Not too certain on the other viscosities.
99 Explorer EB: GC 0W40/FL1A
00 Pajero: Aisin PAO/Ester 5W40/MD352626
01 Marquis: GC 0W40/51372XP
03 Expedition: M1 0W40/51372XP
05 Envoy: GC 0W40/51522XP

#1592361 - 09/07/09 07:57 PM Re: Ester content in Pennzoil Platinum? [Re: Falcon_LS]
StevieC Offline

Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 14339
Loc: Niagara Falls, ON, CA (near)
I was under the same impression Falcon_LS, as that is how they get down to business with sludge and their 46% cleaned out in the first change Marketing. wink
'06 Hyundai Sante Fe - 330K KM's
Current Oil: RLI 0w30 (Ask me why)

Don't be part of the Sheeple, check frequently for wool over your eyes. wink

#1592377 - 09/07/09 08:16 PM Re: Ester content in Pennzoil Platinum? [Re: StevieC]
CompSyn Offline

Registered: 05/11/08
Posts: 325
Loc: Pacific NW USA
I found the MSDS for PP 0W-20 but nothing that flat out indicates Esters.

I don't know, it seems like speculation at this point. That's why I was wondering if Buster knows something we don't.

Interestingly, I pulled up the MSDS for Mobil 1 Racing 0W-30 and it spells out "ALKYL ESTERS" right there.

Guess I was looking for something similar in the PP MSDS since it's claimed to have some ester content.

#1593276 - 09/08/09 05:30 PM Re: Ester content in Pennzoil Platinum? [Re: CompSyn]
chevrofreak Offline

Registered: 06/17/05
Posts: 4941
Loc: Billings, MT
As far as I know, esters don't have to be listed on an MSDS.
I <3 Red Line oil

#1593282 - 09/08/09 05:36 PM Re: Ester content in Pennzoil Platinum? [Re: CompSyn]
SL8R Offline

Registered: 09/24/08
Posts: 94
Loc: Ottawa, Ontario
ZDDP is an alkyl ester. Sometimes a little knowledge is dangerous.

#1593293 - 09/08/09 05:59 PM Re: Ester content in Pennzoil Platinum? [Re: SL8R]
buster Offline

Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30229
Loc: NJ
This is something you can't find out. PP does contain some esters Johnny said. As to which ones and how much, no one knows.