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Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: nthach] #1581921
08/29/09 01:10 AM
08/29/09 01:10 AM
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I read the information at the BASF web site before and I read it again. It says NOTHING about Ashland/Valvoline MANUFACTURING antifreeze using BASF technology. It merely states that Valvoline holds a license on BASF coolant technology.
I would not be surprised if CCI is restricted to manufacturing G-05 formula antifreeze for BASF licensees.

I also asked where Valvoline's putative antifreeze plant is located. I have not yet received (nor do I expect to receive) a response.

According to Ashland's annual reports, Zerex was the number two selling antifreeze when Ashland bought the Zerex antifreeze business from BASF in 1994. For the next decade, Ashland apologized every year for disappointing profits from their antifreeze business because of low margins. About five years ago, Ashland quit reporting that Zerex was the number two selling antifreeze in the U.S. In recent years, antifreeze has played such a small role in Ashland's revenues and profits that it is scarcely mentioned in the 2008 Annual Report. Moreover, the 2008 report only states that Valvoline MARKETS Zerex antifreeze--not that it MANUFACTURES it.

In the future, I will probably buy Zerex Asian Vehicle Antifreeze/Coolant. The fact that it is actually made by CCI (who invented and hold the patents on Asian P-OAT coolant technology) is reassuring.

Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: ponderosaTX] #1582012
08/29/09 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: ponderosaTX
In the future, I will probably buy Zerex Asian Vehicle Antifreeze/Coolant......


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Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: Propflux01] #1582303
08/29/09 12:38 PM
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It may take up to a year before you can find them in local auto parts stores.


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Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: Ken2] #1582602
08/29/09 06:39 PM
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I have been buying the Toyota Pink Stuf since my car was new. The rad and reservoir combined hold exactly 1 gallon. SO usually each year I would drain out 1 gallon and replace one gallon. This way I avoid having to flush and I keep the chemistry like new. It has varied over the years from $12 a gallon to $24 a gallon either way it is not a huge cost to do it once a year!

Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: JohnBrowning] #1582607
08/29/09 06:46 PM
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The biggest pain in the rear is that I have to go to the dealership at least once a year. This year will mark the first year I have failed to do this. SO it will be two years with this fill come next Summer. Being unemployed again which in Michigan is becoming fairly normal I have tried to cut back on my over the top maintenance!!LOL

Seeing how it is supposed to be good for 5 years or 120,000 miles I do not think doing it every two years is going to hurt anything. I just do not like to trust my corrosion protection any longer then that. I always changed my coolant once a year when the green stuff was the norm and I never have had a water pump fail on anything until my wifes Buick which had Dexcool and it was owned by my Grandmother and she followed the OEM recommendations to the letter with the exception of using Mobil-1 10W30. Her water pump let lose right around 100,000 miles.

I think their is a lot to be said for maintenance if you plan on owning a vehicle longer then 5 years or 120,000 miles. I think this is especially true if you plan on rebuilding the engine at some point.

Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: JohnBrowning] #1583495
08/30/09 03:59 PM
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To those of you looking for a retail supply for "Peak Lifetime Global", the local Walgreen Drug Stores in Ohio seem to have it year round. AAP seems to carry only the green stuff and extended life.FWIW-- Old tommy

Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: 2oldtommy] #1583743
08/30/09 07:42 PM
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Yes, I saw Peak Global Lifetime at the local Walgreens the other day here in Kansastan.


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Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: onion] #1583778
08/30/09 08:06 PM
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The Old North State
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I saw two rather dusty gallons of PGL full strength today at Walgreens for $15 a gallon. First time I've seen it in this area.

Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: Sayjac] #1584077
08/31/09 01:30 AM
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It is amazing that you can not find Peak Global Lifetime at any auto parts store and they are in a drug store. Who would have thought that buying auto parts in a drug store ?


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Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: HTSS_TR] #1584106
08/31/09 04:21 AM
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The Menards here in Toledo, OH carries Peak Global lifetime. They sell the 50/50 stuff for about $8.

Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: HTSS_TR] #1584456
08/31/09 01:01 PM
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PA by way of Oregon
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Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
It is amazing that you can not find Peak Global Lifetime at any auto parts store and they are in a drug store. Who would have thought that buying auto parts in a drug store ?


I'm surprised too. The Walgreens and Rite Aid stores by me all carry Global Lifetime, although not the concentrate. I can't find it in any auto stores. I even found it at highway rest stop convenience store once, but never AutoZone or Advance Auto.

Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: PeteTheFarmer] #1584786
08/31/09 06:29 PM
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Walgreens by me stopped carrying Lifetime conc, theirs one jug left from last season. It's 15.49 and the 50/50 is 14.49... ouch


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Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: JohnBrowning] #1585861
09/01/09 04:46 PM
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Washington St.
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Originally Posted By: JohnBrowning
Seeing how it is supposed to be good for 5 years or 120,000 miles I do not think doing it every two years is going to hurt anything. I just do not like to trust my corrosion protection any longer then that.

So, test the corrosion protection. With a digital voltmeter, put one probe in the cool coolant in the radiator neck (not touching metal). Put the other probe on the battery negative post. If you read 0.1 volts DC to 0.3 VDC, you're good. If you read 0.5 VDC or more, your coolant had depleted corrosion inhibitors and is due (or overdue) for a change. You're reading the voltage generated by the galvanic action of the dissimilar metals and the electrolyte (the coolant).




Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: Ken2] #1586489
09/02/09 07:38 AM
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NAPA, at least the Northern Indiana Distribution Center stocks the Asian Zerex 50/50 mix. There does not appear to be a concentrated version availible. I am about to order some right now. List price is $11.61, my price is $9.09.

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Re: Zerex Asian Antifreeze? [Re: PeteTheFarmer] #1616375
09/30/09 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: PeteTheFarmer
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
It is amazing that you can not find Peak Global Lifetime at any auto parts store and they are in a drug store. Who would have thought that buying auto parts in a drug store ?


I'm surprised too. The Walgreens and Rite Aid stores by me all carry Global Lifetime, although not the concentrate. I can't find it in any auto stores. I even found it at highway rest stop convenience store once, but never AutoZone or Advance Auto.

Those stores usually sell the stuff at a high price so that if someone is in a crisis and can't reach an auto part store, they can buy coolant and oil anyway.

But they have to pay extra to get it.


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