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Redline 10w-40 #1539713
07/21/09 07:40 PM
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johnbottilaw Offline OP
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Iron: 2

Tin: 3

Lead: 1

Chrom: 1

Alum: 2

Calcium: 2228

Mag: 56

Zinc: 1446

Phos: 1337

Moly: 677

Barium: 5

Sil: 19

Boron: 17

83.9

14.2

tbn: 8.6

Tan 2.51

Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: johnbottilaw] #1539722
07/21/09 07:45 PM
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Oooooook.





03 GMC Sierra 4x4 200k M1 0-40+PU
00 Saturn SL2 89 YO Lady Car 92k, Edge Ext
98 Saturn SC2 Rare "Red Hot" 165k, Edge Ext
97 Camry 245k, Maxlife

Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: Turk] #1539846
07/21/09 09:38 PM
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All the moly we expect along with the not so politically correct z/ph levels. Looks like a great oil.


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Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: unDummy] #1539869
07/21/09 09:50 PM
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Hooray for Moly, and a true Grp.IV.


520bhp 94 VR-4: 5W-40 Rotella-T Synth.
Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: lawdogg] #1539927
07/21/09 10:25 PM
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Redline is a group V, no?


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Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: Turk] #1540046
07/22/09 02:09 AM
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 Originally Posted By: tpitcher
Oooooook.







What is the meaning and purpose of this communication? ooooook? I don't get it, can someome tell me the inference or question here?

Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: johnbottilaw] #1540059
07/22/09 03:21 AM
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Ontario , Canada
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LOoks great. I have this oil in my modified Saab that had track use. Will have a uoa in a month. TBN is on the low side, oh well.

Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: Saab9-3] #1540103
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Both TBN and viscosity are lower than I thought they would be.

Nice dose of Zn in that oil!


2010 Kia Soul 2U - 2.0L I-4, auto; 144k miles.
Castrol GTX HM 5W-30, STP blue bottle; Fram TG 9688.

2009 Pontiac G5 - 2.2 I-4, auto, 121k miles.
Oil/filter TBD
Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: addyguy] #1540121
07/22/09 07:12 AM
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moutain country
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redline and motul are a true group V oil


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Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: johnbottilaw] #1542894
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Pacnw
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Nice job of testing for TAN. Interesting that the TAN is almost exactly the same as the Redline 5W30 VOA posted elsewhere by buster. Someone said this may be due to the sulphonates that redline is using.?

I also noticed that Tin is 3. Does anyone know if redline is using Tin Napthenate as an additive? I wonder if this is the source of "elevated" (usually 2 or 3 ppm) that sometimes people refer to as wear in some redline UOAs?

John, what lab is this one from? TBN is very close to what redline claims (8.4 I believe) but my blackstone TBNs have been about 11 for redline 5W40. Don't know if it is a Blackstone method or what that causes that.


"when 5W30 is cold, ...the oil is 35 weight (5+30),...20 w 50 starts at 70 and warms up to 50"
- Kyle, auto mechanic & VP Speedline Motorsports, INTL
Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: saaber1] #1543424
07/25/09 02:10 AM
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Dyson Analysis

Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: Turk] #1543426
07/25/09 02:19 AM
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 Originally Posted By: tpitcher
Oooooook.







I am still waiting for someone, anyone, to decipher or translate this communication for me? [censored] is he asking, or saying?

Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: johnbottilaw] #1543441
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 Originally Posted By: johnbottilaw
 Originally Posted By: tpitcher
Oooooook.







What is the meaning and purpose of this communication? ooooook? I don't get it, can someome tell me the inference or question here?


Yip. Yip. YipYipYipYipYipYipYipYipYipYipYipYip!


92 Accord Wagon - The White Whale! 255K.
Oil du jour: Motorcraft 10w-30 HM (was on sale!) with Pure One filter and 8~10K OCI.
Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: saaber1] #1543882
07/25/09 02:02 PM
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 Originally Posted By: saaber1
Nice job of testing for TAN. Interesting that the TAN is almost exactly the same as the Redline 5W30 VOA posted elsewhere by buster. Someone said this may be due to the sulphonates that redline is using.?

I also noticed that Tin is 3. Does anyone know if redline is using Tin Napthenate as an additive? I wonder if this is the source of "elevated" (usually 2 or 3 ppm) that sometimes people refer to as wear in some redline UOAs?

John, what lab is this one from? TBN is very close to what redline claims (8.4 I believe) but my blackstone TBNs have been about 11 for redline 5W40. Don't know if it is a Blackstone method or what that causes that.



Redline 5W-40 is one of their Diesel rated oils, and has a higher starting TBN by design according to their literature.

Re: Redline 10w-40 [Re: saaber1] #1548308
07/29/09 06:36 PM
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 Originally Posted By: saaber1
Nice job of testing for TAN. Interesting that the TAN is almost exactly the same as the Redline 5W30 VOA posted elsewhere by buster. Someone said this may be due to the sulphonates that redline is using.?

I also noticed that Tin is 3. Does anyone know if redline is using Tin Napthenate as an additive? I wonder if this is the source of "elevated" (usually 2 or 3 ppm) that sometimes people refer to as wear in some redline UOAs?

Tin is neither dirty pipes or an additive. It has to do with the ester supplier. I only mention it because the speculation here has been ongoing forever and people love to cheap shot Redline with the dirty pipes theory. This oil scares the tar out of competitors, and with good reason.

John, what lab is this one from? TBN is very close to what redline claims (8.4 I believe) but my blackstone TBNs have been about 11 for redline 5W40. Don't know if it is a Blackstone method or what that causes that.

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