VOA Suzuki (Shell) 10-40 Dino & 15-50 Synthetic

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At the Maximum-Suzuki forum, there's an oil thread going on (amazingly enough!!), so the question came up about using the manufacturer's branded oil. I scarfed up a quart each of 10-40 dino and 15-50 synthetic to send out for VOA. The oil is branded 'Suzuki', but lists "SOPUS" on each container, so I'm guessing it's Shell.

We'll do the 10-40 Dino first:
RON: This is the virgin sample of Suzuki/Shell 10W/40. The TBN read 9.5, which is a strong reading to start out with. We found no moisture or solids in this sample, and the viscosity was normal for a 10W/40 oil. This oil should serve you well.
VOA #1 (Suzuki/Shell 10-40 Dino)
MI/HR ON OIL:
MI/HR ON UNIT:
DATE: 3-22-09

ALUMINUM: 0
CHROMIUM: 0
IRON: 1
COPPER: 0
LEAD: 0
TIN: 0
MOLY: 0
NICKEL: 0
MANGANESE: 0
SILVER: 0
TITANIUM: 0
POTASSIUM: 0
BORON: 3
SILICON: 3
SODIUM: 2
CALCIUM: 2017
MAGNESIUM: 6
PHOSPHOROUS: 738
ZINC: 923
BARIUM: 0

SUS VISC. @210F: 74.1
Cst Visc. @100C: 14.02
Flashpoint: 410
Fuel %:—
Antifreeze %: —
Water %: 0.0
Insolubles %: 0.0
TBN: 9.5
TAN:
ISO Code:

And, the 15-50, Synthetic:
RON: This sample of 15W/50 oil looks a lot like the 10W/40, only with a higher viscosity (as you'd expect). The additives are about the same, and the TBN starts out about the same too (at 9.8). No moisture or solids found.
VOA #1 (Suzuki/Shell 15-50 Syn.)
MI/HR ON OIL:
MI/HR ON UNIT:
DATE: 3-22-09

ALUMINUM: 0
CHROMIUM: 0
IRON: 1
COPPER: 0
LEAD: 0
TIN: 0
MOLY: 0
NICKEL: 0
MANGANESE: 0
SILVER: 0
TITANIUM: 0
POTASSIUM: 0
BORON: 2
SILICON: 2
SODIUM: 2
CALCIUM: 1936
MAGNESIUM: 5
PHOSPHOROUS: 707
ZINC: 875
BARIUM:

SUS VISC. @210F: 99.6
Cst Visc. @100C: 20.26
Flashpoint: 425
Fuel %:—–
Antifreeze %: —
Water %: 0.0
Insolubles %: 0.0
TBN: 9.8
TAN:
ISO Code:

Both being SH/SJ rated, I was expecting higher zinc/phosphorous numbers. If you are one who likes to see those numbers higher than 1,000, there are a bunch of other oils out there that will fill the bill - just about any 15-40 HDEO, for instance..

OTOH, maybe we make too much of the ZDDP numbers???
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The flash point was only 15 degrees higher for the "synthetic"?

Yeah - those zinc/phosporus numbers waaaay lower that what I would expect.

Thanks for the VOAs.
 
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Thanks for posting this. I have a 98 TL1000 that has 65,000 miles on it run on the 10/40 and 20/50 Suzuki dino for 50,000 of those miles, my motor is very clean inside and still runs great.

For a long time I was getting it for $2.50 a quart and ran 1500-2000 mile OCI most of the time. This same oil is now $6.95 at my local dealer so for that money I went and pick up some Brad Penn 10/40 motorcycle oil and thats what I just put in the other day.

What did you pay for the oil?
 
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Are these designed to be used in Suzuki cars, or their motorcycles?
Specified for motorcycles, but I can't imagine why it wouldn't work anywhere an SF/SG/SH/SJ is required.

Cost was $4.95/qt for the 10-40 dino, and $8.95/qt for the 15-50 syn. The guy told me the syn price was from their previous year's order, and the new stuff would definitely be higher. Oneida Suzuki lists it for $5.10/qt.
 
WOW...I think this is the first time we've seen a VOA on a manufacturer branded (suzuki Honda ect ect) motorcycle oil...

It really gets rid of alot of the confusion surrounding motorcycle oils...If the OEM branded oil is o.k. to use with those levels than any HDEO should be even better...Looks like Castrol GTX would be just fine.
 
Hi sands - agreed. Certainly nothing mind-blowing in those VOA's!! Look like average numbers across the board.. Maybe we have made too much of the ZDDP issue..
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