Recent Topics
SOPUS
by Camprunner
09/23/17 09:23 AM
VIRGIN ST 4386 CUT OPEN
by car51
09/23/17 08:35 AM
5W-30 2009 Lexus 350- high copper
by Patrick0525
09/23/17 07:55 AM
15W40 Oil Question
by doolah02
09/23/17 07:04 AM
M1 rebate + WM rollback + Chase freedom 5%
by danez_yoda
09/23/17 06:39 AM
Compilation of TPMS relearning by manufacturer
by Shannow
09/23/17 03:47 AM
Walker Mower Does A Good Job
by Merkava_4
09/23/17 02:43 AM
AR cleaning kit?
by buck91
09/22/17 08:31 PM
"Liquid Piston" engine
by Shannow
09/22/17 08:13 PM
Personal VPN - McAfee Safe Connect
by ZeeOSix
09/22/17 08:07 PM
Would you prefer all trans pans have a drain plug?
by ZZman
09/22/17 07:37 PM
How does this sound +1 Quart 2.0T
by Ammofirst
09/22/17 07:10 PM
2014 Taurus low coolant
by cadfaeltex
09/22/17 07:08 PM
VOA for Pennzoil 5w-30?
by MikeB4rsk
09/22/17 07:06 PM
warning! 2006 mitsubishi outlander fuel pump repla
by kc8adu
09/22/17 07:04 PM
Mobil 1 AP 5w20 - 9,822mi 2014 Jeep GC HEMI
by mike718
09/22/17 06:57 PM
Puerto Rico aftermath
by madRiver
09/22/17 05:39 PM
Tires wear out faster when new?
by 2010Civic
09/22/17 05:05 PM
Fram Ultra now rated up to 20K miles?
by Matagonka
09/22/17 04:55 PM
Service Department Just Lied to My Face
by fenixguy
09/22/17 03:43 PM
Newest Members
EchoThat300K, BlissStation, HarrisJ, jdsco, rykar
62919 Registered Users
Who's Online
76 registered (Artem, BHopkins, aquariuscsm, alarmguy, Berny, 6 invisible), 2127 Guests and 14 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
62919 Members
66 Forums
271246 Topics
4498847 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#1248180 - 10/02/08 08:10 AM Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0
01rangerxl Offline


Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 9131
Loc: Birmingham, AL
I want to do a basic drain and fill on my truck.

The coolant in it is Ford yellow GO-5.

According to Peak, their Global AMAM antifreeze is okay to use in Fords with the coolant spec WSS-M97B51-A1 (yellow GO-5). BUT, they say it "features a patented non 2-EH formula that is phosphate-free and silicate-free."
http://www.peakantifreeze.com/peak_global_lifetime.html

According to Ford, their vehicles that call for GO-5 need silicates.
http://www.search-autoparts.com/searchau...e/detail/329982

What should I do here? Go on a wild goose chase for correct GO-5, or just use the Peak Global AMAM?

_________________________
2002 Ford Ranger XLT | 3.0 V6 / 5-Speed Automatic / 2WD | 200K miles
1994 Ford Ranger STX | 4.0 V6 / 5-Speed Manual / 4X4 | 190K miles

Top
#1248186 - 10/02/08 08:19 AM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: 01rangerxl]
drewjp Offline


Registered: 05/05/06
Posts: 563
Loc: Michigan
Well, the only place I've seen G-05 recently is at NAPA, or the dealerships ($$)...

I have no idea why PepBoys pulled the Zerex G-05....that is what I relied on.

I stick with G-05 to be safe, for the same reason I won't use a universal ATF when my tranny calls for ATF+4.
_________________________
2002 Chrysler PT Cruiser Limited
GC 0W-30

Top
#1248213 - 10/02/08 09:09 AM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: drewjp]
01rangerxl Offline


Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 9131
Loc: Birmingham, AL
NAPA saved the day. It was the first place I went to today, and they had jugs of Zerex GO-5 right there when I walked in the door. It is $15/gal...not too bad for a little more peace of mind.

I went to Advance afterwards just to pick up some general stuff. They didn't even have a designated area for coolant, just some bottles of AMAM 50/50 junk.
_________________________
2002 Ford Ranger XLT | 3.0 V6 / 5-Speed Automatic / 2WD | 200K miles
1994 Ford Ranger STX | 4.0 V6 / 5-Speed Manual / 4X4 | 190K miles

Top
#1248255 - 10/02/08 09:55 AM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: 01rangerxl]
FZ1 Offline


Registered: 02/07/08
Posts: 4546
Loc: Texas
Go get the oem Ford coolant,Geez.

Top
#1248300 - 10/02/08 10:55 AM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: FZ1]
01rangerxl Offline


Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 9131
Loc: Birmingham, AL
I found the right stuff at NAPA.

I don't know Ford's price, but I'd bet it is in the $20-$25 range for a gallon. Dealers around here do not discount on parts at all.
_________________________
2002 Ford Ranger XLT | 3.0 V6 / 5-Speed Automatic / 2WD | 200K miles
1994 Ford Ranger STX | 4.0 V6 / 5-Speed Manual / 4X4 | 190K miles

Top
#1248379 - 10/02/08 12:23 PM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: 01rangerxl]
01rangerxl Offline


Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 9131
Loc: Birmingham, AL
I got done with the drain & fill. I got over 2 gallons out just from the radiator drain. The whole system has 3.7 gallons in it, so over half of the coolant is fresh now.

The old coolant was in fairly good shape, at least appearance wise. I don't know for sure how old it was. The bill for the 30K service (parents owned it then) shows "SERV COOLING SYSTEM." I don't know if that was a flush, drain & fill or what. No materials are listed for it. The other services, like the transmission service, all had the materials listed with them, so I don't know what to make of it. Either way, the fluid was still a nice transparent yellow without a lot of junk in it.

Hopefully Zerex G-05 will continue to be available for a while. I'm fairly certain that NAPA is the only place around that stocks actual G-05.
_________________________
2002 Ford Ranger XLT | 3.0 V6 / 5-Speed Automatic / 2WD | 200K miles
1994 Ford Ranger STX | 4.0 V6 / 5-Speed Manual / 4X4 | 190K miles

Top
#1248642 - 10/02/08 06:07 PM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: 01rangerxl]
onion Offline


Registered: 02/04/07
Posts: 2097
Loc: kansastan
John Deere dealerships sell it for about $14 per gallon. It doesn't say G-05 on the jug, but that's what it is.

Their version of G-05 is green, of course.

I also saw some Zerex G-05 at Autozone the other day.

Glad to hear that you avoided the all-makes stuff.
_________________________
The invisible and the imaginary look exactly the same.

Top
#1248644 - 10/02/08 06:15 PM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: onion]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 8440
Loc: Florida
The last time I needed G-05 coolant, I went to Carquest. They charged $15 per gallon.
_________________________
2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback

Top
#1248658 - 10/02/08 06:43 PM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: artificialist]
Eric Smith Offline


Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 2951
Loc: Kansas, USA
I wish others besides Napa would carry it here in KC... no Napa's close. I'm about to shoot off a email to Advanced or O'Reillys.
_________________________
05 Chevy 3500 (Class C RV) 55k (PU 5w30)
04 Escape 150k (PHM 5w20)
02 Focus 132k (PP 5w20)
91 Festiva 255k .. Rust bucket

Top
#1248670 - 10/02/08 07:02 PM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: Eric Smith]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 8440
Loc: Florida
I have seen many Advance Auto stores, but I never saw G-05 in any of them.

There are no O'Reilys where I live, so I don't know what they have.
_________________________
2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback

Top
#1248674 - 10/02/08 07:06 PM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: Eric Smith]
01rangerxl Offline


Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 9131
Loc: Birmingham, AL
 Originally Posted By: Eric Smith
I'm about to shoot off a email to Advanced or O'Reillys.

It's worth a shot. Zerex is made by Valvoline. Those stores shouldn't have a problem ordering some, whether they will or not is another matter...
_________________________
2002 Ford Ranger XLT | 3.0 V6 / 5-Speed Automatic / 2WD | 200K miles
1994 Ford Ranger STX | 4.0 V6 / 5-Speed Manual / 4X4 | 190K miles

Top
#1249012 - 10/03/08 08:02 AM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: 01rangerxl]
Eric Smith Offline


Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 2951
Loc: Kansas, USA
Sent off an email to OReillys this morning. We'll see how they respond. I'd really need to a radiator drop on the Escape and Ranger but I hate driving through all those 15 miles of stop lights to Napa.
_________________________
05 Chevy 3500 (Class C RV) 55k (PU 5w30)
04 Escape 150k (PHM 5w20)
02 Focus 132k (PP 5w20)
91 Festiva 255k .. Rust bucket

Top
#1251409 - 10/06/08 02:54 PM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: Eric Smith]
JonnyHotcakes Offline


Registered: 02/22/08
Posts: 217
Loc: NY
I've always gone to john deere dealerships. cheaper, same product.
_________________________
I change my oil every 50k, whether it needs it or not.

Top
#1251918 - 10/07/08 07:06 AM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: Eric Smith]
dkcase Offline


Registered: 10/20/02
Posts: 732
Loc: Suburban St. Louis
Here, O'Reilly's had G-05 -- until I decided to convert all my vehicles to it after doing research ( ! ) -- then it disappeared. This was at the time that Prestone All-Makes All Models came out.

Now I get G-05 at Autozone -- at least last time I looked.

Chrysler and Mercedes dealers are sources too; price, I don't know.

Top
#1252149 - 10/07/08 12:34 PM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: 01rangerxl]
y_p_w Offline


Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 3425
Loc: SF Bay Area
 Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
 Originally Posted By: Eric Smith
I'm about to shoot off a email to Advanced or O'Reillys.

It's worth a shot. Zerex is made by Valvoline. Those stores shouldn't have a problem ordering some, whether they will or not is another matter...

Wasn't the G-05 formula developed by BASF? I know BASF sold off the NA rights to the Zerex name to Valvoline years ago. I remember some older BASF commercials (the "We don't make the things you buy. We make them better" ads) showed someone pouring coolant into a radiator or something similar.

http://corporate.basf.com/en/presse/mitteilungen/pm.htm?pmid=3092&id=V00-Q1DuWD.kdbcp3G7

Top
#1253546 - 10/09/08 08:46 AM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: y_p_w]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 8440
Loc: Florida
I really don't know if it was BASF or not.

What I know is that G-05 is an Ethylene Glycol coolant with Sodium Benzoate and Sodium Silicate corrosion inhibitors. Ordinary green stuff used Phosphates and Silicates.

I figured Sodium Benzoate had existed for so long that the patent expired, meaning anybody could make the stuff without paying certain fees to the inventor.
_________________________
2010 Lancer Ralliart Sportback

Top
#1253589 - 10/09/08 09:45 AM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: artificialist]
Steve S Offline


Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 18449
Loc: East of IGO
Go with the G-O5
_________________________
Why do people post I want the best for my car,,, When there isn't anything that is the best on the car to begin with.

Top
#1253761 - 10/09/08 02:08 PM Re: Too many specs...what to use for 2002 Ranger 3.0 [Re: 01rangerxl]
JayhawkRoy Online   content


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 973
Loc: Basehor, KS
 Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
I found the right stuff at NAPA.

I don't know Ford's price, but I'd bet it is in the $20-$25 range for a gallon. Dealers around here do not discount on parts at all.


When I checked a couple of months ago, Motorcraft Gold was $17.78 at our local Ford dealer, who is known to be on the high side.

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >