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#3453647 - 08/12/14 03:13 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
Miller88 Offline


Registered: 04/09/08
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Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: Burt
Originally Posted By: Barkleymut
One thing I hate is people that cannot do math. The census website says there are 132,802,859 housing units in the US, which means that .00229664 homes quit TV in the past quarter.



Agreed. When you factor in that not all homes have cable and this was only a 3 month time period, its a large drop. At $1800 per year per customer, its a loss of $540 million in one quarter.


So around $1.2B for the year in lost subscriber revenue. But $79B in TV ads up from $66B last year? I'm not sure they are worried. Not when they just keep increasing subscription costs.

One number they didn't mention was the new subscription rate. 305k quit last quarter, but how many new people signed up? Might be more static than we think.


It didn't take Time Warner long before they were sending me advertisements to get my old rate back.
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#3454077 - 08/12/14 10:07 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
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I canceled cable TV about 8 years ago but kept the high speed internet from them (for Netflix and HULU).

About a year ago the offered me a internet/tv package with faster internet for less money than what I was paying for just internet, so I said yes. Still have not hooked up to the cable TV portion, but am enjoying 2x the internet speed for less money each month. I called to cancel since the promo ended and they gave me an even better deal for a year.
Still have the cable box they sent me for "free" sitting in the corner of the garage unopened.
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#3454156 - 08/12/14 11:42 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
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Registered: 07/24/07
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I enjoy certain shows on tv, Blue Bloods, He!! On wheels, Vikings come to mind. I'm 70+ years old and have no need or wish to work any longer. I enjoy to be entertained at times and like the news available on television, both local & world.

I like keeping myself abreast of what's going on in the world, even tho there is little I can do about it.

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#3454165 - 08/13/14 12:18 AM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: doitmyself]
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Registered: 02/23/09
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Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
I choose to include some mindful, quality television in my weekly routine in addition to spending my time on "much more important" activities.

People read in moderation, exercise in moderation, and eat healthy in moderation. Why not quality television in moderation?

Why the "all or nothing" regarding this one aspect of life? TV expense can be managed like everything else. I know some religions dictate what people can do. I.e., dancing invokes immoral thoughts = total abstinence from dancing, while many can do it responsibly. I know some people lack will power and easily succumb to addiction, thus mandating total abstinence. Avoiding TV to compensate for a weakness is probably a good move.

I enjoy educational tv (history, nature, diy, travel, cooking,etc.). I also enjoy some entertainment tv (movies, some game shows, occasional sports).

I don't know why responsible television presents such a challenge for some people.



Agreed. Sometimes there are few things worth watching. I'm more of a pbs/history junkie, but every now and then I like a little mindless fun. Just like music, but that is another story....
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#3454797 - 08/13/14 08:07 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: doitmyself]
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Registered: 12/14/02
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Originally Posted By: doitmyself
I choose to include some mindful, quality television in my weekly routine in addition to spending my time on "much more important" activities.

People read in moderation, exercise in moderation, and eat healthy in moderation. Why not quality television in moderation?

...

I don't know why responsible television presents such a challenge for some people.


responsible television isnt the issue. Its the amount of garbage that costs hundreds if not thousands of dollars a year to waste time on.

And then you hear that apparently shark week is staged, when I watched dish network in a hotel recently, there are ever more and more commercials on PAY channels, and every other one is seemingly for a reverse mortgage.

And then you look at the prevalence of obesity, not to mention all the threads on here about how people are so dumb, how they are rude, caught up in other things, dont know enough about things, etc. What proliferates that??? Garbage programming on hundreds of channels sure doesnt help.

There are some good things, some of the stuff teaching history, some of the stuff on DIY channels like Holmes, some of the food stuff, its all interesting and useful on occasion. I cant imagine wasting time on the non-technical, non-useful trash that is popular on a lot of the TV.

Its not "responsible TV" that is the issue.

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#3454807 - 08/13/14 08:27 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: JHZR2]
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Registered: 07/26/04
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Haven't had a TV in the house for 17 years; a while back i thought there was too much good stuff on, now i think the opposite.

I will say one thing; the nonsense on TV is so pervasive that it shows up on radio discussions, office talk, youtube videos etc, that it isn't really necessary to watch any of it.

I think Mitchell and Webb sort of summed up US reality shows. Brilliant parody of the stupidity of it all.



Edited by simple_gifts (08/13/14 08:29 PM)
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#3454861 - 08/13/14 09:27 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
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No TV whatsoever in my home these days.

Don't even miss it.
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#3454891 - 08/13/14 10:27 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: JHZR2]
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Registered: 06/03/02
Posts: 5744
Loc: MI
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
responsible television isnt the issue. Its the amount of garbage that costs hundreds if not thousands of dollars a year to waste time on.


Here's the problem I have with all these types of discussions. It's based on the simple proberb: People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. This translates to: Do not criticize others if you have similar weaknesses yourself.

Let me turn the tables on you. This is a friendly joust, mind you. Not a personal attack or judgement. Purely hypothetical. If I remember correct, you have 4 to 6 vehicles for you and your wife (if I am wrong, then lets imagine you do). One is a BMW? and one is an old truck that is only used rarely for real work.

Here I go......"It's the amount of garbage that costs hundreds if not thousands of dollars a year to waste time on". Extra insurance costs. Extra maintenance and repair costs. Huge amount of time wasted on care, repairs, maintenance. Didn't you once claim to spend hours clearing leaf debris and then detailing door jambs, hinge areas, etc.? No one needs a car that can go 130mph, a jeep or truck that can clear mud bogs. Everyone should have one or two appliance type vehicles that meets their basic needs. Anything else in just decadence and wasted time AND money that could be spent better else where.

Touche.....my wife and I actually only keep one appliance type vehicle for the two of us and this is what I choose (for the past 38 years). But, you don't find me beating my chest and patting my back every other week, espousing my greatness and everyone else's weakness. What's good for us does not apply to everyone else.

Another example: a retired couple that own an overly large home and claim monthly utility bills of $1,200 dollars or more. "It's the amount of garbage that costs hundreds if not thousands of dollars a year to waste time on". A home half this size could still be extremely comfortable. Much less time to maintain. Much less money to maintain. Much less burden on the environment, especially considering the overly large yard that requires a commercial mower to maintain.

Touche again. My wife and I successfully live in a typical post WWII home of 1,200 sq. ft, one bathroom and we raised three fine kids here. Again, I don't criticize others for their choice that is different.

How about the professional sports in the U.S. and all the waste of time and money associated with that? O.k., enough is enough for now. Not going there, all you lazy tv watching couch potatoes. $50 dollars to go sit in a dirty stadium, eat and drink outrageously priced food & drink, to watch spoiled men play a game, getting many millions a year????? Really stupid waste of time and money (don't forget, I'm being hypothetical here - no death threats sports fanatics!).

That's my .02 cents on this topic and many others like it at BITOG. That I can enjoy coffee at home for 10 cents while others spend $4.00 at Starbucks....pffft, their money to spend as they choose.

The social issues regarding all this stuff is another topic. But, judging others for how they spend their time and money, no matter how silly, is not part of my demeanor. To each, their own.


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#3455993 - 08/15/14 02:25 AM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: stephen9666]
NJC Offline


Registered: 04/28/05
Posts: 2993
Loc: Vancouver BC
Originally Posted By: stephen9666

Uh, many people who "cut the cord" aren't anti-TV, they're against paying big cable bills for tons of stuff they don't watch.

I got rid of cable like 5 years ago and I've never looked back. I pay for a couple online services that add up to way less than cable. I can watch pretty much anything I'd want to online, on-demand.

Yes sir .. we save ~$500 yr not having cable.

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#3456157 - 08/15/14 08:37 AM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
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Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 14505
Loc: Top of Virginia
Our monthly "TV" bill went from a "bundled deal" bill of about $190 to about $70 all-in (for broadband, Netflix, Hulu Plus, and Amazon Prime). We're saving $1,440 each year.

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#3456158 - 08/15/14 08:38 AM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: JHZR2]
dlundblad Offline


Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 8145
Loc: Midwest
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: doitmyself


People read in moderation, exercise in moderation, and eat healthy in moderation. Why not quality television in moderation?

...

I don't know why responsible television presents such a challenge for some people.


responsible television isnt the issue. Its the amount of garbage that costs hundreds if not thousands of dollars a year to waste time on.


This. I agree with both comments 100%, but the issue here is TV just has plain junk on it. I can think of quite a few shows I consider tasteful, but it is all very $$$ (and you pay for mostly commercials) and I can either find them on the web, or buy the seasons.

A lot of people watch waaaaaaay too much TV though. I cant stress that enough. Has anyone watched the new Lego movie? They live in a stupefied society where all they watch is garbage, do the same thing at work etc. It was an excellent joke on pope culture IMO.
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#3456288 - 08/15/14 11:23 AM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: dlundblad]
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Registered: 06/03/02
Posts: 5744
Loc: MI
So, I need someone to explain the obvious here, a point brought up by Hokyfied.

Regarding the comments "I have much better things to spend my time on", how is spending many hours on the internet participating in threads like this constitute "better time" than keeping up with the Kardashians, Honey Boo Boo, or the wackmaster Ted Nugent?

I don't get it.

I have 4,600 posts here over 12 years. Multiply by a conservative 10 minutes surf time per post, and I have spent 766 HOURS of quality time here vs. time in the garden, with my spouse, with my kids and grandkids, etc.. Scary.

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#3456420 - 08/15/14 01:34 PM Re: People not cutting the TV cord [Re: supton]
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Registered: 10/05/08
Posts: 5024
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Lots and lots of garbage on TV. I think we all know that. Same for the internet.

But if a person spends some time looking for quality programs, they are certainly available on TV.

Entertainment is a rather subjective thing anyway. What one person finds enjoyable...the next considers it mind-sapping.

I would like to see providers allow for a customer to select only networks that they desire to have and pay for just those channels. We all have individual tastes and it would be nice to see cable companies cater to those tastes.
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