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#3257940 - 01/23/14 08:21 PM Re: Ram ProMaster van [Re: Hokiefyd]
Eric Smith Offline


Registered: 02/26/05
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Loc: Kansas City, KS
I tow quite a bit a FWD with no problems. Seeing that most fwd's isn't rated to tow more than 5k and that in self is a good load fine for most people. All comes down the engine/trans combo, overhang passed the rear axle etc.. no different that RWD's.

They have a long line of these things on Metcalf. Don't look half bad in person.
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#3258225 - 01/24/14 05:12 AM Re: Ram ProMaster van [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Registered: 10/10/08
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^^^Exactly. Typical framing contractor who tows a small trailer occasionally will LOVE these vehicles, they are obviously NOT real heavy duty trucks like our 3500 RWD service vans...
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#3258423 - 01/24/14 09:39 AM Re: Ram ProMaster van [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Registered: 06/01/11
Posts: 7180
Loc: CT
My framers like LWB 3500's because they can fill them with [censored] and they are cheap to buy and run.

Just like the Sprinter if the price point is to high they won't get much market penetration.

Nissan is selling their vans like hot cakes to utility companies because they are under bidding GM and Ford.

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#3259055 - 01/24/14 08:49 PM Re: Ram ProMaster van [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 8840
Loc: Birmingham, AL
More Euro Trash vans, just what we need. This one has been coming for a while though, and I think Ram Vans died in 2002 IIRC.

Soldier on Express/Savannah and full size NVs, you are the last of your kind!

It's a shame Ford is jumping on the tiny engine tin van bandwagon with the Transit. The E-Series is a seriously heavy duty vehicle built like nothing else in the "light duty" segment anymore. The big [censored] I-beams in the front suspension could eat a Euro van for lunch. It's a politically incorrect vehicle though...big, with a big engine, and lots of heavy metal throughout. It isn't a green tin van throwaway. I think these days a lot of businesses will "go green" rather than buy a van that will last 15-30 years, though I don't see how junking disposable tin vans will be green.

Interesting that when Nissan decided to get into commercial vans, they went with the tried and true enclosed pickup truck concept rather than a throwaway piece of foil.
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#3263112 - 01/28/14 08:10 PM Re: Ram ProMaster van [Re: DuckRyder]
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Originally Posted By: DuckRyder


I thought it would be an Iveco Daily first shrug
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#3263126 - 01/28/14 08:20 PM Re: Ram ProMaster van [Re: Spazdog]
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Registered: 10/20/05
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Originally Posted By: Spazdog
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder


I thought it would be an Iveco Daily first shrug


And Iveco is a ________ company and _________ company was created by a merger of _______ and who?

Ergo Iveco Daily = Fiat Ducato shrug
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#3263170 - 01/28/14 09:12 PM Re: Ram ProMaster van [Re: DuckRyder]
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Is the Iveco Daily a FWD now? I haven't seen one in years. I haven't seen an Iveco in years. It seems like Isuzu took over the bobtail import market and rebadged Mercedes Sprinters (Freightliners) are the high roof van of choice.

Last Iveco Daily I saw was a dual rear wheel passenger bus. shrug
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#3263216 - 01/28/14 09:44 PM Re: Ram ProMaster van [Re: Spazdog]
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Registered: 10/20/05
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Originally Posted By: Spazdog
Is the Iveco Daily a FWD now?...


Ah, I think you are right the Daily is rear wheel drive... it does appear to use Fiat engines and Iveco is "- A CNH INDUSTRIAL COMPANY" and CNH INDUSTRIAL COMPANY was "created from the merger of Fiat Industrial and CNH Global",

Appears the Daily slots above the Ducato in payload... shrug
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