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Posted By: Sportage333444

Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/06/20 08:03 PM

Is Motul 300V 10W40 suitable for Honda Goldwing or better Motul 7100 10W40.
I read that Motul 300V is only suitable for racing.

Honda Goldwing Gl1800, 2014 year, 2000 mileage.
Posted By: 02SE

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/06/20 09:00 PM

I'm running 300V 4T in our four sportbikes. Two have been raced, the other two just street riding or trackdays. I prefer how the bikes run and shift using the 300V 4T, over the 7100. I know several people who use 300V 4T in bikes that only see street use. So I'd say try it and then you can decide for yourself if you like it or not.
Posted By: Sportage333444

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/06/20 09:17 PM

What mileage can be done on 300V oil.
Can you leave it for the winter in a motorcycle?
Posted By: krismoriah72

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/06/20 10:04 PM

Its been awhile but the guys over in the goldwing forums have run hundreds of thousands of miles on Rotella 10w30..but i havent kept up with it.
Posted By: Bonz

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/06/20 11:31 PM

No harm running 300V, however the Gold Wing is farthest from the bike I would consider running that stuff in. It goes without saying, and is well-known around here, 300V is a full race bred motorcycle engine oil. It starts at the lower end of the 40 wt scale in terms of viscosity, which there's nothing wrong in and of itself with that, just a bit more to share about it.

I would run the 7100 and be done with it if you are set on that oil brand.

Or run any of the just as capable oils (Rotella, Rotella and Rotella as examples) you can find on the shelf at Walmart that have been mentioned in the past 20 years. A Gold Wing is easy on the oil, don't over think or over engineer this choice. smile
Posted By: 02SE

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/07/20 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Sportage333444
What mileage can be done on 300V oil.
Can you leave it for the winter in a motorcycle?


All four of our sportbikes have it in the sump over winter. One is in my office, and the others are in a heated garage that doesn't get colder than 45° F.

As mentioned, lots of people use HD oils like Rotella, Delo, etc. Those oils will certainly work, but I've found that the bikes just don't run or in particular shift as well using them, as they do using the 300V 4T. I could certainly save some money using Rotella in the bikes, but the trade-off in how my bikes run just isn't worth it to me.
Posted By: FADEC

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/07/20 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Sportage333444
Is Motul 300V 10W40 suitable for Honda Goldwing or better Motul 7100 10W40.
I read that Motul 300V is only suitable for racing.

Honda Goldwing Gl1800, 2014 year, 2000 mileage.

You've got a six year old touring bike with 2000 miles? That would be sweet!
Posted By: Bonz

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/07/20 03:45 AM

I agree about shift quality and the oil a person chooses seems to be part of that equation WAY more than any difference in wear protection. Notchier shifting and even finding a false neutral are no bueno.

For a 5,000 mile Kawasaki recommended OCI with my 2001 ZRX 1200, Mobil 1 10w40 4T or Mobil 1 20w 50 V-Twin do well for eliminating any poor shifting in my experience.
Posted By: Sportage333444

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/07/20 06:50 AM

There is no Shell Rotella in my country.
Available oils are:
- Motul 300V 10w40
- Motul 7100 10W40
- Motul 7100 10W30
- AMSOIL 10W30 MCT
- AMSOIL 10W40 MCF
- BelRay 10W40
- ENEOS MAX Performance 10W40
- SHELL ADVANCE 4T 10W40 AX-7

Yes the motorcycle is 2,000 miles, I bought it at the IaaI auction.

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Posted By: wagsrk08

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/07/20 01:59 PM

My first question is: What weight of oil (i.e. 10W30 10W40 20W50 etc.) does your Honda Owners Manual say is required or best alternate for your bike? The manufacture brand used is a personal preference. Of course Honda wants you to use their oil.......
Posted By: Sportage333444

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/07/20 02:09 PM

Recommended Engine Oil:
Pro Honda GN4 4 stroke oil (USA and Canada) or equivalent motorcycle oil.
API service classification: SG or Higher (except oils labeled as energy conserving on the circular API service label)
JASO T 903 standard: MA
Viscosity: SAE 10W-30


From the forum information, a lot of users use Mobil1 10w40. This oil does not exist in my country.
I can buy either Motula 300V 10w40 or AMSOIL 10W40.
I just don't know which is better. The price of these oils in my country is the same.
Posted By: Sportage333444

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/07/20 02:43 PM

I love this motorcycle and I want the best oil for it. blush
Posted By: wagsrk08

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/07/20 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Sportage333444
I love this motorcycle and I want the best oil for it. blush

You can always call a Honda Dealer and see what they use, recommend or have in stock. I'm sure there is a Honda dealer in Warsaw, Krakow or Gdansk.
Posted By: maineiac

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/08/20 12:50 AM

Race oils generally don't put a premium on TBN level as they're changed out every race. Unless you have a VOA that says otherwise, I'd be hesitant to leave 300V in the bike over the winter or for any extended period.
Posted By: Sportage333444

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/08/20 04:42 PM

I spoke to a Honda dealer they recommend Honda 10W30 oil

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB-650-F-2018-Genuine-Honda-10w30-Oil-Filter-Kit-4L-/382877301335

As far as I know this is a group III (HC) database.
I am thinking about Motul 7100 10w30 or AMSOIL 10W30.
I don't know AMS oil. I don't know if he would be better than Motul.
Posted By: 02SE

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/08/20 05:50 PM

You have opinions now on two threads, under two user names, with the same question.

In my opinion, Amsoil is not better than Motul 300V 4T.

Is it better than Motul 7100? I'd say the Amsoil is closer to the 7100.

Maybe someone will say the exact opposite. Try them and decide for yourself. What else are you hoping to hear?
Posted By: Sportage333444

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/08/20 06:09 PM

I had to set up a new user because I was called a troll and the account was blocked.
I do not know why. I have been browsing this forum for 8 years.
I just wanted to get feedback on the AMSOIL oil that was on sale in my country.
And nobody has information about him. Everyone praises him and I have been riding Motul all the time and I have no comparison.
Posted By: jeff78

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/09/20 04:08 PM

Motul says 300V has a TBN of 8.3. So it's hardly a 'race-only' oil.

Here's a thought - if you cannot find good information/opinions on Amsoil, then buy some and try it! Form your own opinions.
Posted By: grampi

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/09/20 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Sportage333444
There is no Shell Rotella in my country.
Available oils are:
- Motul 300V 10w40
- Motul 7100 10W40
- Motul 7100 10W30
- AMSOIL 10W30 MCT
- AMSOIL 10W40 MCF
- BelRay 10W40
- ENEOS MAX Performance 10W40
- SHELL ADVANCE 4T 10W40 AX-7

Yes the motorcycle is 2,000 miles, I bought it at the IaaI auction.



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I guess I haven't seen the new GWs for a while. Where is the fairing and all of the bags? Did Honda quit making the touring versions of this bike?
Posted By: Sportage333444

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/09/20 06:19 PM

Of course, it produces other models.
But this one is the prettiest wink
https://powersports.honda.com/goldwing/2020/index.html
Posted By: Sportage333444

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/09/20 06:38 PM

Do you think these tests are reliable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR5ajywzzYo
Posted By: sunruh

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/09/20 08:04 PM

2 decades of reports on the goldwing show that it is one of the longest lasting motors there is.
it is very Very VERY easy on oil.
to the point that you could pour light sweet crude in and it will run just fine for 100k miles
the only true way to hurt this motor is to drain the oil and drive it off a cliff into the ocean and recover it in 5years

in short:
use anything you want in it. it will out live you
Posted By: jeff78

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/10/20 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Sportage333444
Do you think these tests are reliable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR5ajywzzYo


LOL, no. Has no relevance to what is happening in your engine. Might as well do a taste test.

Piotr must be the Polish Scott Kilmer. or Rat540...
Posted By: Sportage333444

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/10/20 04:23 PM

I was just surprised that Motul 300V came out worse than Motul 7100. Also AMSOIL came out poorly in these tests.
Posted By: kschachn

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/10/20 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Sportage333444
I was just surprised that Motul 300V came out worse than Motul 7100. Also AMSOIL came out poorly in these tests.

No oil comes out worse or better. The data is worthless and even when tested more carefully there is no statistically significant difference between any of the results.
Posted By: Sportage333444

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/10/20 04:48 PM

I think I will try this 300V Butterfly. Only if it can be used in touring motorcycles. Has cleaning and corrosion protection properties.
I saw on yotube that this man pours into his Goldwing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR1v5kblC94
Posted By: Clayslayer

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/10/20 10:48 PM

You can use Supertech conventional 5w-30 if you want. You'll probably only get 3 or 4 million miles out of the engine though. Any oil you mentioned will be outstanding. Pick one, change it once a year, and be done with it.
Posted By: blupupher

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/10/20 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Clayslayer
You can use Supertech conventional 5w-30 if you want. You'll probably only get 3 or 4 million miles out of the engine though. Any oil you mentioned will be outstanding. Pick one, change it once a year, and be done with it.

No, that has friction modifiers in it and can cause clutch slippage.
Supertech HDEO 15w-40 would work though.
Posted By: Bonz

Re: Oil Honda Goldwing - 01/12/20 12:32 AM

Supposedly it has harmful friction modifiers, I would be interested to know where anyone has run a 10w 0 automotive oil in their bike and can definitively see they had clutch slippage.

I've heard the friction modifier argument for years, and don't see a need to use anything in Xw30 even if it was MC specific so it would never be an issue for me regardless. Just curious if there is definitive proof though.

If those friction modifiers exist, the BITOG community should have been able to discern what the compounds are long ago and be able to test for them. Nothing is that secret or hidden in the shadows.
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