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FAT bike love!

Posted By: DriveHard

FAT bike love! - 10/31/19 01:53 PM

Where are my fat bike riders?

Man, I just picked one up two weeks ago...and I LOVE IT!

I used to amateur race MTB, and had a ton of fun. My MTB is still in the garage...and I actually just upgraded the tires and brakes again. In the last two years I have switched to road bikes...and have really enjoyed pounding out some very quick multi-mile trips on a much more efficient ride. Moving once again into winter I wanted this year to keep riding...and so began my search into fat tire bikes. I finally pulled the trigger on one...and even though there has not been snow yet, I have not spun a wheel on my road bike in the last two weeks, and I don't see pulling the MTB down off the rack. I love riding my fatty! The best part is that I live on gravel, and close to "level B" roads...so I can just hop on at my front door and go! No more loading up the bike for a trip down the gravel to find some pavement.

Yes, my distances are less, yes my pace is slower (just over half), but I am having a ton of fun, and keeping my cardio up as we turn into winter. What a blast!

PS...running around 20PSI and already had a flat from a thorn...normal to have higher flat tire rates of a fatty? I already bought several tubes to keep her running...just wondering if that is normal to get one so quickly?

Posted By: AZjeff

Re: FAT bike love! - 10/31/19 02:04 PM

First off, pics or it didn't happen. And brand and model is always welcome if no pics so we know what you're talking about.

I've been riding a 27.5x3.0 mid-fat(+) for 3 years and run 12-13 front and 13-15 rear, if you're riding a true fatty, 4.0 or more you're way over inflated, the whole point of the fat tires is the low pressures you can run. Go tubeless if you can, you'll never look back.

Go to the forums on mtbr.com, there's one for + bikes and one for fat bikes.

Big tires are a hoot!

Edit: if thorns are a problem and you want to run tubes then by all means get Slime or Stan's sealant.
Posted By: andyd

Re: FAT bike love! - 10/31/19 02:06 PM

Bigger Tires, gravel roads larger contact patch ...My brother used liners on his MTN bike when pedaling across the US.
Posted By: DriveHard

Re: FAT bike love! - 10/31/19 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by AZjeff
First off, pics or it didn't happen. And brand and model is always welcome if no pics so we know what you're talking about.

I've been riding a 27.5x3.0 mid-fat(+) for 3 years and run 12-13 front and 13-15 rear, if you're riding a true fatty, 4.0 or more you're way over inflated, the whole point of the fat tires is the low pressures you can run. Go tubeless if you can, you'll never look back.

Go to the forums on mtbr.com, there's one for + bikes and one for fat bikes.

Big tires are a hoot!

Edit: if thorns are a problem and you want to run tubes then by all means get Slime or Stan's sealant.



Fair enough...here she is. I will get some muddy pics maybe later tonight...hope to get another dozen miles in.

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Posted By: AZjeff

Re: FAT bike love! - 10/31/19 03:06 PM

Those look like 4" tires. Do some research but you'll probably want to be running under 10 psi in the snow, 10-15 trail riding and 20-25 gravel road riding. 20 psi on dirt defeats the purpose of the fat tires.
Posted By: DriveHard

Re: FAT bike love! - 10/31/19 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by AZjeff
Those look like 4" tires. Do some research but you'll probably want to be running under 10 psi in the snow, 10-15 trail riding and 20-25 gravel road riding. 20 psi on dirt defeats the purpose of the fat tires.


they are 4" tires...and all but about one mile of my ride are gravel roads...so I thought ~20psi to be appropriate.
Posted By: AZjeff

Re: FAT bike love! - 11/01/19 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by DriveHard
they are 4" tires...and all but about one mile of my ride are gravel roads...so I thought ~20psi to be appropriate.


The hottest new bike of the past couple of years is the gravel bike, basically a road bike with 45mm wide knobby tires and disc brakes, for riding fast on dirt (gravel) roads. Did you check them out?

You bought a Jeep with big tires, these are rally cars.
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Posted By: CourierDriver

Re: FAT bike love! - 11/01/19 01:11 PM

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Posted By: DriveHard

Re: FAT bike love! - 11/01/19 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by AZjeff
Originally Posted by DriveHard
they are 4" tires...and all but about one mile of my ride are gravel roads...so I thought ~20psi to be appropriate.


The hottest new bike of the past couple of years is the gravel bike, basically a road bike with 45mm wide knobby tires and disc brakes, for riding fast on dirt (gravel) roads. Did you check them out?

You bought a Jeep with big tires, these are rally cars.
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I did, and my mountain bike seems to fit that bill when I put crossover tires on it. I got the fat bike to keep riding in the winter - in the snow and ice that we are already getting here in Iowa. Fat bikes excel in those conditions.
Posted By: NYEngineer

Re: FAT bike love! - 11/02/19 01:35 PM

20 psi is way too much for fat bike tires. You want the sidewall to bulge a little bit when you ride the bike to increase the footprint, if that makes sense.
I'm in full agreement with you about fatties being so much fun. I used to ride a full suspension 29er. Around 2011 or 2012 I got a taste of fat bikes and now I won't ride anything under 3 inches wide.
To address your thorn... You need to go tubeless. I believe that bike comes with Weinmann rims which are not really suitable for tubeless. It's a bit of money but if you want to have trouble free riding and maximum traction, tubeless is where it's at. When they're available, Alex Blizzerks are excellent, cost effective rims. They do tubeless perfectly. I've been riding tubeless since around 2009 and have never had a flat since. My fat bikes have only ever been tubeless. No issues.
I run 5" tires on the bike below. I run 9 psi in the front tire and about 11 in the rear. Less for beach sand or snow. Don't be afraid to experiment a little.

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Posted By: AZjeff

Re: FAT bike love! - 11/03/19 07:49 PM

What bars are you running NYE? Due to wrist problems I'm running carbon Answer 20/20s on my + bike and Origin8 OR2 bars on my 26" converted gravel bike and won't ever run shallow bend bars again. Tubeless is the real deal but the OP shouldn't have any more or less problems with his 4" tires than any other. Slime or Stans.
Posted By: NYEngineer

Re: FAT bike love! - 11/04/19 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by AZjeff
What bars are you running NYE? Due to wrist problems I'm running carbon Answer 20/20s on my + bike and Origin8 OR2 bars on my 26" converted gravel bike and won't ever run shallow bend bars again. Tubeless is the real deal but the OP shouldn't have any more or less problems with his 4" tires than any other. Slime or Stans.


I run Jones H Bars on all of my bikes. I have a poorly done right forearm repair and straight bars make my wrist hurt after a short time. Now, I run the Jones Loops with 2 1/2" of rise. Great bars plus, they have an awesome space for a bag.
Lots of people say the Jones bars are for touring and you can't ride singletrack with em. It took me a few rides but now I can ride the gnarliest tech with them just fine. My fifteen year old son runs em too.

https://www.jonesbikes.com/jones-h-bar-loop-sg-2-5-aluminum-loop/
Posted By: NYEngineer

Re: FAT bike love! - 11/04/19 12:45 PM

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Here they are on my Krampus.
Posted By: Surestick

Re: FAT bike love! - 12/08/19 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by NYEngineer
20 psi is way too much for fat bike tires. You want the sidewall to bulge a little bit when you ride the bike to increase the footprint, if that makes sense.
I'm in full agreement with you about fatties being so much fun.


I was going to post the same thing. 20 psi is way too high.
If you're not riding on snow or sand 15 psi is probably the most you'd want.

Also, lower psi = less pressure between the tire and the ground because your weight is spread out over a larger area which generally means less chance of punctures (less force to push sharp things through the tire).

Tubeless is an option if you ride your bike a lot but it's a bit more maintenance-heavy than tubes (the sealant dries out over time and the tires lose pressure faster between rides).
Posted By: DriveHard

Re: FAT bike love! - 12/09/19 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Surestick
Originally Posted by NYEngineer
20 psi is way too much for fat bike tires. You want the sidewall to bulge a little bit when you ride the bike to increase the footprint, if that makes sense.
I'm in full agreement with you about fatties being so much fun.


I was going to post the same thing. 20 psi is way too high.
If you're not riding on snow or sand 15 psi is probably the most you'd want.

Also, lower psi = less pressure between the tire and the ground because your weight is spread out over a larger area which generally means less chance of punctures (less force to push sharp things through the tire).

Tubeless is an option if you ride your bike a lot but it's a bit more maintenance-heavy than tubes (the sealant dries out over time and the tires lose pressure faster between rides).


was running 15 psi on my last ride...totally different roads/trails and got another flat :-(
Posted By: Number_35

Re: FAT bike love! - 12/09/19 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by DriveHard
Originally Posted by Surestick
Originally Posted by NYEngineer
20 psi is way too much for fat bike tires. You want the sidewall to bulge a little bit when you ride the bike to increase the footprint, if that makes sense.
I'm in full agreement with you about fatties being so much fun.


I was going to post the same thing. 20 psi is way too high.
If you're not riding on snow or sand 15 psi is probably the most you'd want.

Also, lower psi = less pressure between the tire and the ground because your weight is spread out over a larger area which generally means less chance of punctures (less force to push sharp things through the tire).

Tubeless is an option if you ride your bike a lot but it's a bit more maintenance-heavy than tubes (the sealant dries out over time and the tires lose pressure faster between rides).


was running 15 psi on my last ride...totally different roads/trails and got another flat :-(
We're running 10 PSI, and may drop that a bit - we've had some really bad ice here, and need a larger contact patch. This is our 5th winter with two fat bikes, and together we've only had one flat over those 10 collective bike-winters. That was due to a very large spike sticking up out of a piece of wood, half-buried in slush a few years ago. Didn't see it coming home from work in the dark.
Posted By: NYEngineer

Re: FAT bike love! - 12/10/19 02:53 AM

35, have you ever tried studded tires? I have not. Might be worth a shot since you get lots of ice.
Posted By: DriveHard

Re: FAT bike love! - 12/10/19 02:03 PM

ran into some mud...got so gunked up I literally could not pedal in the highest gear. It took me a good 30 minutes to clean it up enough to keep going....

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Posted By: NYEngineer

Re: FAT bike love! - 12/10/19 05:08 PM

WOW!! I guess you're initiated into the fat bike club.
Posted By: Number_35

Re: FAT bike love! - 12/10/19 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by NYEngineer
35, have you ever tried studded tires? I have not. Might be worth a shot since you get lots of ice.
NYE, yes, bought a set for both bikes after my wife had a nasty fall near the end of the winter in March 2017. They are excellent (45Norths w/ carbide studs), and allow us to run much higher pressures for comparable conditions. 4.0" on my wife's bike and the rear of my bike, and 4.8" up front on mine. Not cheap, but it's great to have them. Just in from riding 16 km, and even with the unusual amount of ice we have this year, the bike was great.
Posted By: NYEngineer

Re: FAT bike love! - 12/11/19 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Number_35
Originally Posted by NYEngineer
35, have you ever tried studded tires? I have not. Might be worth a shot since you get lots of ice.
NYE, yes, bought a set for both bikes after my wife had a nasty fall near the end of the winter in March 2017. They are excellent (45Norths w/ carbide studs), and allow us to run much higher pressures for comparable conditions. 4.0" on my wife's bike and the rear of my bike, and 4.8" up front on mine. Not cheap, but it's great to have them. Just in from riding 16 km, and even with the unusual amount of ice we have this year, the bike was great.


I figured you'd have lots of ice experience. Next time I'm in Maine I'll grab a set of studded tires at LL Bean's bike shop. They had the biggest selection of fat tires I've ever seen anywhere. I'd like to put my hands on em and not just buy online.

In all my years of winter biking and fat biking, I've only got one really bad fall. I hit some really smooth ice and the bike just went sideways out from under me. Now that I'm getting older, I have to think about these things.
Posted By: Number_35

Re: FAT bike love! - 12/13/19 12:47 AM

NYE, I went to a number of different bike shops here (trying to support my LBS(s)!) and found only the 45Norths. Didn't know about the LL Bean bike shop - please report your findings here. I do like the carbide (vs. steel) studs - they seem to have maintained their original effectiveness well into their 3rd winter.

Regarding your bad fall, I propose that one of us BITOG cyclists (whoever gets to it first) start a thread here describing our worst bike falls. I've had a few of my own - might kick it off.
Posted By: NYEngineer

Re: FAT bike love! - 12/13/19 11:15 AM

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I was up there last summer (LL Bean) and saw the biggest selection of fat tires I had ever seen in one place. I may not make it up there until next summer. I would like to go between Christmas and New Years Day. We'll see if it's in the cards for me.

I'm on board with the fall thread. I have a decent story.
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