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Posted By: Exhaustgases

Anti seize ? - 05/29/19 04:45 AM

All aluminum male and female threads, what is best to use to stop galling and corrosion?
Posted By: Char Baby

Re: Anti seize ? - 05/29/19 06:27 AM

I guess that one with aluminum in it would be best.

https://community.cartalk.com/t/dumb-question-anti-seize-ok-for-aluminum/86980/6
Posted By: Mainia

Re: Anti seize ? - 05/29/19 10:14 AM

5% moly grease.
Posted By: Kira

Re: Anti seize ? - 05/29/19 10:48 AM

Definitely bring a torque wrench o that party.
Posted By: Snagglefoot

Re: Anti seize ? - 05/29/19 11:59 AM

This. Now called Aluminum anti seize. Good to 1600 F. Military spec.
www.permatex.com

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Posted By: Trav

Re: Anti seize ? - 05/29/19 12:00 PM

For aluminum on aluminum you want to use a ceramic never seize, this is a good one. Don't bother with Amazon they want $150 for a case, this place will sell you one.

https://www.emisupply.com/catalog/w...tiseize-paste-106oz-brushtop-p-2310.html

Edit: I thought this might be of interest.


Posted By: JLawrence08648

Re: Anti seize ? - 05/29/19 12:49 PM

The Permatex is good stuff. For past 50+ years I've been using Never-Seize, graphite based, because my father used it. It has served me well, never has failed. You can get it at plumbing supply stores. I use it on car's lug nuts, besides bolts which are heated, exhaust, ... Bicycles, lawn mower bolts especially the blade bolt, snowblowers
Posted By: 2009Edge

Re: Anti seize ? - 05/29/19 02:51 PM

Never seize on lug nuts will change the torque value. Lug nut torque relies on the friction of the nut threads and the friction of the nut shoulder and the wheel. Any lubricant will change the value.
Posted By: andyd

Re: Anti seize ? - 05/29/19 03:40 PM

DIYers, 99% of situations where Anti seize is used can just as well be served by chassis grease grin2
Posted By: Exhaustgases

Re: Anti seize ? - 06/03/19 09:48 AM

I was thinking using Al type anti seize, may not be a good idea on all Al parts, since it is already a case of Al on Al. That permatex is okay on steel bolts, just not sure about all aluminum.
Posted By: red7404

Re: Anti seize ? - 08/02/19 11:30 PM

yesterday i used permatex no. 133H. on battery terms
Posted By: nthach

Re: Anti seize ? - 08/07/19 07:45 PM

Loctite C5-A. A Costco tire installer turned me onto this years ago and I've never looked back. It's a Cu/Al/graphite-filled grease. I use that stuff especially on bikes where a steel screw or bottom bracket shell threads into Al frames. I used to use it on spark plugs but not anymore.
Posted By: wagsrk08

Re: Anti seize ? - 08/10/19 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by nthach
Loctite C5-A. A Costco tire installer turned me onto this years ago and I've never looked back. It's a Cu/Al/graphite-filled grease. I use that stuff especially on bikes where a steel screw or bottom bracket shell threads into Al frames. I used to use it on spark plugs but not anymore.

+ 1 on Loctite Anti-Seize products! I've used it for over 10 years now on my Harley Davidsons. Just make sure you purchase the correct product for the job at hand.
Posted By: JHZR2

Re: Anti seize ? - 08/18/19 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by Exhaustgases
I was thinking using Al type anti seize, may not be a good idea on all Al parts, since it is already a case of Al on Al. That permatex is okay on steel bolts, just not sure about all aluminum.


That may not be exactly the case. I believe these are metal mixtures, and may include graphite, moly, oil, etc.

But I think your premise that the AS materials must be carefully considered is a good one.

Originally Posted by nthach
Loctite C5-A. A Costco tire installer turned me onto this years ago and I've never looked back. It's a Cu/Al/graphite-filled grease. I use that stuff especially on bikes where a steel screw or bottom bracket shell threads into Al frames. I used to use it on spark plugs but not anymore.


I use this a lot, including wheels (on the hub, not the lugs), but decided against it after a while because Al and Cu aren’t a good pair. I read someplace that Zn anti seize is best for aluminum to steel connections, so that’s what I use there.

Aluminum to aluminum I’d probably consider nickel, marine type, or regular grease.
Posted By: gamefoo21

Re: Anti seize ? - 08/29/19 03:10 AM

Nickel anti-seize works a treat on almost everything. Even the evils of stainless steel into aluminium.

For lug nuts and studs... Don't get it on the sear, threads only, and as a rule drop torque 10%. If it calls for 100ft/lbs, torque to 90.

Works great on the wheel face and hub lip, to keep your wheels from seizing on. So nice not having to beat your wheels or nuts off. *cough*
Posted By: Snagglefoot

Re: Anti seize ? - 08/30/19 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
This. Now called Aluminum anti seize. Good to 1600 F. Military spec.
www.permatex.com

Actually, Now called Silver Grade. Still spec #133H


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Posted By: Trav

Re: Anti seize ? - 09/01/19 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by gamefoo21
Nickel anti-seize works a treat on almost everything. Even the evils of stainless steel into aluminium.

For lug nuts and studs... Don't get it on the sear, threads only, and as a rule drop torque 10%. If it calls for 100ft/lbs, torque to 90.

Works great on the wheel face and hub lip, to keep your wheels from seizing on. So nice not having to beat your wheels or nuts off. *cough*


Always check the owners manual, the info above may not be correct in some cases. On the bolt shown lubed threads and seat are taken into account for the torque spec.

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Posted By: gamefoo21

Re: Anti seize ? - 09/01/19 05:34 PM

That's the first time I've seen that, but I'll definitely keep that in mind. I'll revise my advice to account for that. Sort of like how when I install basically any of the important torqued bolts in any engine, I always make sure that the threads are well lubed with anti-seize and the face of the nut or bolt head also get greased. Maximize the tension torque rather than fastener friction.

The number of garages I've had to argue with, some would hose off the hubs with brake clean. Around these parts 6 months is enough to seize wheels and lugs.
Posted By: Trav

Re: Anti seize ? - 09/02/19 01:22 AM

When dealing with Euro cars stuff like this comes up all the time. I see in some Euro manuals this is standard procedure but the US manual for the same car sometimes does not and the wheel bolts are brutal to remove on cars used in the salt belt that have been mounted for any amount of time.
This is usually cars with alloy wheels and use wheel bolts.
Posted By: gamefoo21

Re: Anti seize ? - 09/03/19 03:36 AM

European companies thinking we are too daft to handle the proper way? LoL
Posted By: JHZR2

Re: Anti seize ? - 10/18/19 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by Trav
When dealing with Euro cars stuff like this comes up all the time. I see in some Euro manuals this is standard procedure but the US manual for the same car sometimes does not and the wheel bolts are brutal to remove on cars used in the salt belt that have been mounted for any amount of time.
This is usually cars with alloy wheels and use wheel bolts.


+1. Can be nearly impossible to get them off.

Can you share what fsm provided the image you uploaded?
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