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LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020!

Posted By: discountdon

LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 05:42 AM

REJOICE HONDA FANS!

email from Stellar Automotive Group / International Lubricants Inc.:

Thank you for contacting us!

Unfortunately, neither the 20902 or 23232 is recommended in Honda units due to the viscosity.
We will be introducing a Honda specific formula that should be available in January.

You can use our Power Steering Fluid Protectant # 20404. It is fully compatible with Honda PSF: https://www.lubegard.com/products/psf-protectant/.

Please let me know if I can do anything else.

Best regards



happy happy happy

HAPPY HOLIDAYS
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 05:46 AM

if anyone has a SDS of Honda Genuine Power Steering Fluid please post it, I can't find it anywhere...

shrug
Posted By: JeffKeryk

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 05:55 AM

O'Reilly house brand Honda fluid comes in a quart size.
I have used it in several TSXs and other Hondas.
Posted By: OilStasher

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 06:09 AM

It would be nice if all Hondas still had fluid pumps in 2020. smirk
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
O'Reilly house brand Honda fluid comes in a quart size.
I have used it in several TSXs and other Hondas.


maybe they do...

but I'm waiting for Lubegard's super special, super esoteric, super LXE® Technology ESTERS to be running through my lines!

only then I can sleep well...

smirk2
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 06:41 AM

some good insight with Honda Genuine Power Steering Fluid, it supposedly has very high kinematic viscosity ~ 54 cSt @ 40c, 11.3 cSt @ 100c and has different friction modifiers (zinc???)...

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/1302729/2

in theory I can just add some honey-thick Lucas Transmission Fix to regular power steering fluid to bring it up to proper viscosity and add Lubegard Red/Platinum/Black for its friction modifiers, just use this viscosity calculator and mix and mix to your delight!

https://www.widman.biz/English/Calculators/Mixtures.html

spank
Posted By: LotI

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 07:34 AM

Just in time...for 2010. Who still uses hydraulic power assist? Dodge sedans? Nissan Frontier? Bueller?
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 08:04 AM

Honda Genuine Power Steering Fluid
54 cSt @ 40c, 11.3 cSt @ 100c


Lucas Power Steering Fluid
63.0 cSt @ 40c, 8.9 cSt @ 100c

Prestone Power Steering Fluid for Asian Vehicles
53.01 cSt @ 40c - not rated at 100c

Prestone Power Sterring Fluid AS-260/261/265/266Y (gallon jug)
42.2-49.6 cSt @ 40c - not rated at 100c

Lubegard Complete Synthetic Power Steering Fluid
36.29 cSt @ 40c, 6.64 cSt @ 100c

Amsoil Multi-Vehicle Synthetic Power Steering Fluid
33.8 cSt @ 40c, 7.5 cSt @ 100c

Red Line Power Steering Fluid
31 cSt @ 40c, 7 cSt @ 100c

Lubegard Complete Power Steering Fluid
29.61 cSt @ 40c, 5.34 cSt @ 100c

Prestone Power Steering Fluid for American Vehicles AS-264Y
27 cSt @ 40c - not rated at 100c

Lucas Transmission Fix
48.0 cSt @ 100c - not rated at 40c

Lucas Power Steering Stop Leak
45.0 cSt @ 100c - not rated at 40c

-

with a viscosity calculator...

39.16% of Lucas Transmission Fix
60.84% of Lubegard Complete Power Steering Fluid
will yield 11.3 cSt @ 100c

28.66% of Lucas Transmission Fix
71.34% of Red Line Power Steering Fluid
will yield 11.3 cSt @ 100c

19.49% of Lubegard Complete Power Steering Fluid
80.51% of Lucas Power Steering Fluid
will yield 54 cSt @ 40c, 8.4 cSt @ 100c

so yeah, Honda Genuine Power Steering Fluid is VERY SPECIAL!
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by LotI
Just in time...for 2010. Who still uses hydraulic power assist? Dodge sedans? Nissan Frontier? Bueller?


Lubegard is focused on the aftermarket, kind of like Valvoline's MaxLife line of products... you know... for people who buy used and those that keep their vehicles way past warranty!

LOL
Posted By: Char Baby

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 08:20 AM

In the past from my searching through the LubeGard site, ILI had/has a Honda P/S fluid and a P/S fluid converter/conditioner that converts any P/S fluid into Honda-like P/S fluid and the bottles mentioned HONDA on the labels.

Is this still the case?
Is this new to come P/S fluid for electric P/S units?
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Char Baby
In the past from my searching through the LubeGard site, ILI had/has a Honda P/S fluid and a P/S fluid converter/conditioner that converts any P/S fluid into Honda-like P/S fluid.

Is this still the case?
Is this new to come P/S fluid for electric P/S units?


first part - yes:
https://www.lubegard.com/products/psf-protectant/
viscosity: 29.8-35.2 cSt @ 40c, 7.0-8.0 cSt @ 100c
since you only add 4oz of the stuff, it will barely bump up the viscosity... the Honda conversion claim is mainly due to its friction modifier additive package...

second part - no:
Honda Electric Power Steering systems do not use any hydraulic fluids!
Although some domestic & import EPS do use hydraulics and Lubegard claims it's PS protectant helps those too...
Posted By: Char Baby

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 02:14 PM

Ah yes, OK thanks!
My Altima has e-PSF but Nissan wants a bunch of $ for it. I don't have any issues with the system but, would like to top off the system or flush it entirely.
Posted By: edwardh1

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/22/19 11:21 PM

why does honda spec a honda specific fluid (only) that is very uique?
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/23/19 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by edwardh1
why does honda spec a honda specific fluid (only) that is very uique?


I've heard somewhere that way back in the day Honda had major problems with their steering racks, huge recalls, and that Honda Genuine Power Steering Fluid Spec-V along with its special seals solved it...

Some good insights here from page 2:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/2720114/2
Posted By: MolaKule

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/23/19 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by discountdon
if anyone has a SDS of Honda Genuine Power Steering Fluid please post it, I can't find it anywhere...

shrug


An SDS won't tell you the formulation.

Here is a properties sheet of the original Honda PS-2 Honda PN 08208-99961;

This is the original HONDA PERFORMANCE PS-2 FLUID used in the earlier Hondas and Acuras

Appearance Lt. Pale
Flash, COC, Deg F. 355
Pour Point, Deg F. -40
Viscosity, cSt
At 40 C. 53.75
At 100 C. 11.34 (The Prestone Asian Formula is similar)
Viscosity Index MIN 205
Viscosity, Brookfield cP @ -40C < 64000
Oxidation Stability, D-2272 > 200 minutes
Copper Corrosion 3A Max.
Zn Content, ppm. 1500 - Anti-Wear and Anti-Oxidant from ZDDP (not a friction modifier)
P Content, ppm. 1300 - Anti-Wear and Anti-Oxidant from ZDDP (not a friction modifier)
Mg Content, ppm 580 - See Ca
Ca Content, ppm 220 - The Mg-Ca combo serves as both a TBN adjuster and as a Friction Modifier
TBN, ASTM D-4739 5.0



The newer Honda/Acura PSF PN 08206-9002 PF has the following basic properties:

API Gravity / lbs./gal. 32.6 / 7.18
Flash Point, PMCC ºC 92
Viscosity:
cSt @ 40ºC - 31.4
cSt @ 100ºC - 6.5
Viscosity Index 167
Pour Point, max, ºF / ºC -50 / -45

Check your Honda/Acura Operator's Manual for the correct part number.


Posted By: bulwnkl

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 12/23/19 08:12 PM

Sweet! If the 08206-9002 is ‘normal’ viscosity, I’m going back to the Red Line I have on-hand!
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/15/20 04:16 AM

COMPLETE™ Power Steering Fluid for Honda & Acura - Product Data Sheet:
https://www.lubegard.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/LG_Synthetic-Power-Steering-Fluid_HondaAcura.pdf

COMPLETE™ Power Steering Fluid for Honda & Acura SDS:
https://www.lubegard.com/wp-content...ing-Fluid-for-Honda-Acura-2019-11-25.pdf

IT HAS FINALLY ARRIVED!

They will be launching the product tomorrow on the Ides of January 2020 through their Social Media Accounts!

This will be available at your local O'Reilly Auto Part stores very very soon!
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/15/20 04:23 AM

Glancing at their SDS:

Product name : Lubegard® COMPLETE Synthetic Power Steering Fluid for Honda-Acura
Product code : 24242
Appearance : Transparent yellow gold liquid.
Flash point : 227 °C /440.6 °F (ASTM D92)
Relative density : 0.84 @ 60 °F (15.56°C)
Viscosity, kinematic : 51.2 cSt ( OP assumes it's @ 40ºC )



happy happy happy
Posted By: slacktide_bitog

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/15/20 04:34 AM

Glad it is sold by the quart happy

Originally Posted by discountdon
COMPLETE™ Power Steering Fluid for Honda & Acura - Product Data Sheet:
https://www.lubegard.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/LG_Synthetic-Power-Steering-Fluid_HondaAcura.pdf

COMPLETE™ Power Steering Fluid for Honda & Acura SDS:
https://www.lubegard.com/wp-content...ing-Fluid-for-Honda-Acura-2019-11-25.pdf

IT HAS FINALLY ARRIVED!

They will be launching the product tomorrow on the Ides of January 2020 through their Social Media Accounts!

This will be available at your local O'Reilly Auto Part stores very very soon!


What about places where there are no O'Reilly stores? smirk2
Posted By: kschachn

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/15/20 04:36 AM

Is someone selling something here?
Posted By: ctechbob

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/15/20 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
Glad it is sold by the quart happy




This. Especially if you have more one car to maintain.
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/15/20 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog

What about places where there are no O'Reilly stores? smirk2


hopefully the product will trickle down to places like Amazon and other authorized resellers like Transmaxx_LLC from eBay, where I got some of my goodies on the cheap.
Posted By: MolaKule

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/15/20 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by discountdon
Glancing at their SDS:

Product name : Lubegard® COMPLETE Synthetic Power Steering Fluid for Honda-Acura
Product code : 24242
Appearance : Transparent yellow gold liquid.
Flash point : 227 °C /440.6 °F (ASTM D92)
Relative density : 0.84 @ 60 °F (15.56°C)
Viscosity, kinematic : 51.2 cSt ( OP assumes it's @ 40ºC )



That tells us nothing about which Honda Fluid this is supposed to cover:

Quote
An SDS won't tell you the formulation.

Here is a properties sheet of the original Honda PS-2 Honda PN 08208-99961;

This is the original HONDA PERFORMANCE PS-2 FLUID used in the earlier Hondas and Acuras

Appearance Lt. Pale
Flash, COC, Deg F. 355
Pour Point, Deg F. -40
Viscosity, cSt
At 40 C. 53.75
At 100 C. 11.34 (The Prestone Asian Formula is similar)
Viscosity Index MIN 205
Viscosity, Brookfield cP @ -40C < 64000
Oxidation Stability, D-2272 > 200 minutes
Copper Corrosion 3A Max.
Zn Content, ppm. 1500 - Anti-Wear and Anti-Oxidant from ZDDP (not a friction modifier)
P Content, ppm. 1300 - Anti-Wear and Anti-Oxidant from ZDDP (not a friction modifier)
Mg Content, ppm 580 - See Ca
Ca Content, ppm 220 - The Mg-Ca combo serves as both a TBN adjuster and as a Friction Modifier
TBN, ASTM D-4739 5.0



The newer Honda/Acura PSF PN 08206-9002 PF has the following basic properties:

API Gravity / lbs./gal. 32.6 / 7.18
Flash Point, PMCC ºC 92
Viscosity:
cSt @ 40ºC - 31.4
cSt @ 100ºC - 6.5
Viscosity Index 167
Pour Point, max, ºF / ºC -50 / -45

Check your Honda/Acura Operator's Manual for the correct part number.
Posted By: PimTac

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/15/20 10:50 AM

Interesting that this company is announcing this new product when everyone is going to electric steering.
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/15/20 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by PimTac
Interesting that this company is announcing this new product when everyone is going to electric steering.


this company focuses pretty much entirely on the aftermarket and the automotive service industry. people with late model vehicles under warranty most likely wouldn't even consider their offerings. although this product is kind of limited in scope but it does provide the tens of millions of older honda/acura vehicles a viable alternative than oem, better late than never!
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/15/20 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by MolaKule


That tells us nothing about which Honda Fluid this is supposed to cover:



they state it was engineered for 2007+ model year and up which specs for a synthetic formulation, and is backwards compatible with all older models...

the newer Honda Genuine PSF is definitely thinner in viscosity, this new formulation from LG is comparable to the older Honda Genunie PSF in viscosity

we'll have a better idea on its composition once a VOA is done - if only I can get my hands on some...
Posted By: MolaKule

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/16/20 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by discountdon
Originally Posted by MolaKule


That tells us nothing about which Honda Fluid this is supposed to cover:



...the newer Honda Genuine PSF is definitely thinner in viscosity, this new formulation from LG is comparable to the older Honda Genunie PSF in viscosity

we'll have a better idea on its composition once a VOA is done - if only I can get my hands on some...


Only when a VOA is done will we know for sure. With no listing of a complete set of oil properties we can only speculate.
Posted By: Sayjac

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/16/20 12:06 PM

I've had good success using Bardahl for Honda PSF and then Prestone for Honda PSF in two Hondas, an 01 Civic and 07 Accord, both with original pumps. Well past 150+ thousand miles use between them. Good price, unfortunately both discontinued now. Largely depending on price difference between topic fluid and Honda PSF, I might be interested. If close in price or more than Honda, be a no go for me. So after all the promotion, have to wait and see price.
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/16/20 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Sayjac
...Largely depending on price difference between topic fluid and Honda PSF, I might be interested. If close in price or more than Honda, be a no go for me. So after all the promotion, have to wait and see price.


my guess its either going to be priced close or more expensive than Honda Genuine PSF, because topic fluid is full synthetic with claims of better than OEM...
Posted By: Sayjac

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/16/20 01:14 PM

Prestone made/(makes) a "full synthetic" PSF that was tagged as "Asian" PSF too and ran ~$7 a 12 oz bottle. Apparently it's still available too as the link shows. Amazon has it too for bit more.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Prestone-Asian-Power-Steering-Fluid-12oz/35764368

Otoh, Prestone for Honda PSF was ~$2.50-$2.80 a bottle. As the two I mentioned worked well for me, going to "synthetic" for significantly more holds little interest for me at this point. I'll have to inquire what local Honda dealers are getting for a bottle of OEM. Looks like Amazon has it for $6 bottle if 3 purchased.
Posted By: JeffKeryk

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/16/20 04:42 PM

O'Reilly already has a house brand Honda specific PS fluid that is sold by the quart.
I forget the price but it wasn't too bad; maybe $5.
I have used it for several flushes with good results.
Posted By: nicholas

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/16/20 05:15 PM

I think I trust Lubegard more than O'Reilly's.
Posted By: shortlid

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/25/20 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by nicholas
I think I trust Lubegard more than O'Reilly's.


O'Reilly's stuff is not full synthetic
Posted By: jayjr1105

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 01/27/20 03:09 PM

Last year I replaced O rings, reservoir and hoses on my 2005 Odyssey along with a complete flush. I used 3 bottles of Idemitsu and 2 bottles of genuine honda. At first it was a huge improvement (especially noise) but steering has gotten harder in the past few months. I honestly think most Odyssey's suffer from poor idle speed turning anyway but I wonder if a better fluid would help.
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 02/06/20 02:17 AM

[Linked Image]

finally got my hands on some, now off to ALS Labs, will update with VOA upon receipt...
Posted By: AC1DD

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 02/06/20 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by discountdon


finally got my hands on some, now off to ALS Labs, will update with VOA upon receipt...

slobber thumbsup
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 02/11/20 08:53 PM

just for comparison...

Red Line PSF VOA:

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...ine-power-steering-fluid-voa#Post4468003
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 02/11/20 08:56 PM

[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

VOA - Lubegard COMPLETE™ Power Steering Fluid for Honda & Acura (PSF)

https://imgur.com/a/ND0xUdV
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 02/11/20 10:40 PM

LG's additive package looks pretty weak in comparison to the old Honda Genuine PSF (VOA on page 2)...

Redline has changed their formulation to a much thinner viscosity than their original one...

I think all LG has going for them in this new product is their LXE wax esters and a compatible viscosity for Honda's P/S...

spank
Posted By: MolaKule

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 02/11/20 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by discountdon
LG's additive package looks pretty weak in comparison to the old Honda Genuine PSF (VOA on page 2)...

Redline has changed their formulation to a much thinner viscosity than their original one...

I think all LG has going for them in this new product is their LXE wax esters and a compatible viscosity for Honda's P/S...

spank


I think the LG PS fluid looks good in terms of additive chemistry for the older Honda PS spec.

Redline is using their MTF additive package for the PS fluid.

When did Redline reduce their PS fluid to a lower viscosity? Do you have an older VOA to show us?
Posted By: discountdon

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 02/12/20 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by MolaKule
Originally Posted by discountdon
LG's additive package looks pretty weak in comparison to the old Honda Genuine PSF (VOA on page 2)...

Redline has changed their formulation to a much thinner viscosity than their original one...

I think all LG has going for them in this new product is their LXE wax esters and a compatible viscosity for Honda's P/S...

spank


I think the LG PS fluid looks good in terms of additive chemistry for the older Honda PS spec.

Redline is using their MTF additive package for the PS fluid.

When did Redline reduce their PS fluid to a lower viscosity? Do you have an older VOA to show us?


blush oops, my mistake - was in a hurry to get to work when posted blush apparently I was hung up on their website's description of "Lightweight fluid avoids power loss"

the Red Line PSF VOA from 2017 matches the current manufacturer's specs:

https://www.redlineoil.com/power-steering-fluid

Typical Properties
Rust (D66A/B) Pass
Vis @ 100°C after shear 6.47 cSt
Foam 0
Fire Point °C 258
Copper Corrosion 1b
Vis @ -40°C 18,000 cP
Vis @ 100°C 6.47 cSt
Vis @ 40°C 34.7 cSt
Viscosity Index 143
Pour Point, °C -50
Pour Point, °F -58
Posted By: SoNic67

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 02/12/20 09:52 AM

Honda's need a better cooler for their steering fluid. The ones that still have hydraulic steering that is.
Posted By: bulwnkl

Re: LUBEGARD will have a NEW Power Steering Fluid just for HONDA in January 2020! - 05/16/20 06:57 PM

I'm bringing this back up because I finally realized that this does _not_ match my UOA of Honda PSF P/N 08206-9002. Here is the viscosity I obtained after 14,000 miles of use in my Honda pickup. There would have been a small amount of Red Line PSF mixed in from before the swap back to Honda:

cSt @ 40C = 37.5
cSt @ 100C = 10.0

Can anyone comment or elaborate on whether Honda changed P/N 08206-9002 PSF since 2017?

Originally Posted by MolaKule

Here is a properties sheet of the original Honda PS-2 Honda PN 08208-99961;

This is the original HONDA PERFORMANCE PS-2 FLUID used in the earlier Hondas and Acuras

Appearance Lt. Pale
Flash, COC, Deg F. 355
Pour Point, Deg F. -40
Viscosity, cSt
At 40 C. 53.75
At 100 C. 11.34 (The Prestone Asian Formula is similar)
Viscosity Index MIN 205
Viscosity, Brookfield cP @ -40C < 64000
Oxidation Stability, D-2272 > 200 minutes
Copper Corrosion 3A Max.
Zn Content, ppm. 1500 - Anti-Wear and Anti-Oxidant from ZDDP (not a friction modifier)
P Content, ppm. 1300 - Anti-Wear and Anti-Oxidant from ZDDP (not a friction modifier)
Mg Content, ppm 580 - See Ca
Ca Content, ppm 220 - The Mg-Ca combo serves as both a TBN adjuster and as a Friction Modifier
TBN, ASTM D-4739 5.0



The newer Honda/Acura PSF PN 08206-9002 PF has the following basic properties:

API Gravity / lbs./gal. 32.6 / 7.18
Flash Point, PMCC ºC 92
Viscosity:
cSt @ 40ºC - 31.4
cSt @ 100ºC - 6.5
Viscosity Index 167
Pour Point, max, ºF / ºC -50 / -45

Check your Honda/Acura Operator's Manual for the correct part number.


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