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Should have changed it?

Posted By: parshisa

Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 03:14 AM

Changed the oil in my pilot today at 3700mi (MM was at 20%) but left the filter on( Honda A01). Was that a right move it should have been changed oout as well? I feel like i did ok although would like to hear y’alls opinion
Posted By: TheLawnRanger

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 03:18 AM

According to what oil you were using, you possibly could have skipped both.
Posted By: parshisa

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 03:20 AM

I had to in order to be compliant with warranty requirements
Posted By: ZeeOSix

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 03:32 AM

Honda usually says to change the filter every other OCI - check the maintenance schedule.
Posted By: SnowDrifter

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Honda usually says to change the filter every other OCI - check the maintenance schedule.

I actually didn't believe you until I looked it up

That's rather curious
Posted By: dave1251

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by parshisa
I had to in order to be compliant with warranty requirements



According to your orginal post this was not the case.
Posted By: parshisa

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 03:43 AM

20% or 15% on MM doesn’t make that much of a difference. Car has been up anyways so i figured why not. Free oil went in. Filter stays on. How did i do?
Posted By: TheLawnRanger

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 03:51 AM

I would have changed it unless the filter is rated to go a lot longer. I don't know a lot about the reputation of your filter but you should be ok if changing every 3700 miles or so.
Posted By: parshisa

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 04:06 AM

Given the fact that Honda recommends chaning filter every other OCI, my Civic would have to have filter on for around 20K ( MM on it goes on at 10K). I guess they believe it lasts
Posted By: Snagglefoot

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 04:13 AM

I’m trying to get 20,000 miles on a Fram Ultra using multiple OCI’s.
Posted By: Wolf359

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by SnowDrifter
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Honda usually says to change the filter every other OCI - check the maintenance schedule.

I actually didn't believe you until I looked it up

That's rather curious


Not really. If people read the manual, that's actually been standard for lots of cars.
Posted By: SnowDrifter

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by SnowDrifter
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Honda usually says to change the filter every other OCI - check the maintenance schedule.

I actually didn't believe you until I looked it up

That's rather curious


Not really. If people read the manual, that's actually been standard for lots of cars.

Curious for me. Every car I've messed with has had it spec'd oil and filter.

Saying "if people read the manual" is somewhat self defeating as most wouldn't have access to manuals of new cars, let alone memorize them and stay up to date.
Posted By: PWMDMD

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 11:10 AM

I do question these MMs. You’re at 3700 miles on the oil and you’re at 20%. On my 2018 Pilot I currently have 4800 miles on the oil and I just hit 50%. It’s been a hot summer here, I’m mostly city driving, give it the beans all the time and do a fair amount of idling. Hmmm....
Posted By: PWMDMD

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by SnowDrifter
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Honda usually says to change the filter every other OCI - check the maintenance schedule.

I actually didn't believe you until I looked it up

That's rather curious


Not really. If people read the manual, that's actually been standard for lots of cars.


I can’t remember a single car I’ve owned that didn’t state the filter should be changed every other OC.
Posted By: Snagglefoot

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 12:11 PM

And every other OC is just a nominal suggestion. With a quality filter that can be 3x or 4x.
Posted By: Audios

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 01:19 PM

So if its recommended to change every other interval, does the dealer leave the filter on every other time? Saving them 5$ per change every other time?
Posted By: ka9mnx

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 01:23 PM

My 1997 Dodge manual says every other oil change. That would make filter changes at 15,000 miles.
Posted By: Kira

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 02:41 PM

To dave1251: What does your signature mean?

It reads:
"make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use."
Posted By: Ablebody

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/23/18 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
I’m trying to get 20,000 miles on a Fram Ultra using multiple OCI’s.

It can do it according to my experience. Bigger question is is it restictive from the satrt like one of mine seems to have been.
Posted By: ZeeOSix

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/24/18 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Ablebody
Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
I’m trying to get 20,000 miles on a Fram Ultra using multiple OCI’s.

It can do it according to my experience. Bigger question is is it restictive from the satrt like one of mine seems to have been.


No, it's not flow restrictive according to data from Motorking (Fram Rep) - LINK

Around 5 PSI delta-p with 9+ GPM of hot oil flow. That's pretty much as low as oil filters get in terms of delta-p vs flow with hot oil. If you read the link I gave, there are more details.

XG10060
Flow - (PSID)
3 - (1.7)
6 - (3.0)
8 - (4.1)
9.7 - (5.2)
Posted By: bbhero

Re: Should have changed it? - 09/24/18 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
And every other OC is just a nominal suggestion. With a quality filter that can be 3x or 4x.



True ^^^^^^.
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