Let's make a list of the 10 worst GM cars ever

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One thing I liked about it: It was so ugly that they cut the price from $28,000 to $17,000 to get them sold. If you could stomach the hideous appearance, you could get a large vehicle for the price of a small one.

If GM wasn't locked into certain contracts, they could have pulled the plug sooner than they did.
 
I had a 1982 cadillac cimarron, 1st year they made them. I enjoyed it "well used" in 1999.

It was also the only year for the carb'd 1.8L, they went to a TBI 2.0 the next year (along with the cavalier.) The 2.8 V6 didn't show up until 1985 when they stretched the nose out.

Its MSRP was around $12k; I am to understand cavaliers started at $6k. Excise tax around here is based on a mill rate of the NEW MSRP, so it was printed on my registration.

Pretty sure this car had an independent rear suspension, unlike the beam axle cavaliers had. It rode pretty good, was mushy, sure, but a ride that could appeal to some people.

The seats were leather and incredibly cushy. Only other seats that have supported me as well have been in vans with tons of room for foam and springs.

It had the 3 speed automatic with lockup, and was setup to upshift at 2500 RPM unless you were really getting on it. The engine was cammed to make tons of power above 4000 RPM. One would typically drive sedately but the car could suprise you if you put your foot to the floor.

This car got tons of knocks for being "small" and "underpowered" but I look at it as an interesting exercise. Who says bigger is better? It would make a great city car with great maneuverability, tons of toys, and 30 MPG.

I look at it like I look at my beloved saturn s-cars, as a well engineered small car that can be optioned up and paid attention to without forcing an upgrade to a bigger car... losing the "bigger is better" mindset. Well engineered J-body? Yeah I really think so... Not rattly, easily serviceable, better than the k-car or escort of the time period.

I paid $700 for mine; I can understand being laughed at for getting one new as it sure looked like the half priced cheezy cavalier. As beaters go, GM (accidentally) provides interesting fodder.
 
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Infiniti tried something similar more recently by turing a Sentra into an G20. That didn't last long.




Can anyone say, "lipstick on a pig"???

For the Cimarron to have worked, they would have had to engineer it much further away from its Cavalier sibling. Not to pick on GM as noted directly above, this trick failed when Infiniti tried it. To their great credit, Toyota has not attempted to Lexize the Corolla.
 
Here's Time magazines list of the 50 worst cars of all time. No Vega or other GM H body made the list, the 2002 BMW 7 series did though.
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http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/completelist/0,,1658545,00.html
 
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Here's Time magazines list of the 50 worst cars of all time. No Vega or other GM H body made the list, the 2002 BMW 7 series did though.
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http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/completelist/0,,1658545,00.html



That article belongs at the top of a 50 worst articles list.

They put the Model T on their list because they blame it for making people like cars, which led to pollution. Huh? And the Explorer is on there because millions of people bought them, and for some reason that bothers Time. A lot of the vehicles on the list are just the usual scapegoats the author probably pulled from some run of the mill worst cars book on the bargain shelf at Borders.
 
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Infiniti tried something similar more recently by turing a Sentra into an G20. That didn't last long.




Yeah, except the last original retail price (2002) was $21,395 - that's much closer to the price of a fully loaded Sentra (which it basically was), compared to the Cimarron which was much, much more than a Cavy. Furthermore, the G35 took the place of the G20 (it didn't just die out), Infiniti decided to upgrade its entry level sedan.
 
Okay I'd like to add the Saturn Astra to this list! I just went to log-on to my myspace account and I see this advertisement for "the all new Saturn Astra sport compact" - those were the exact words. Well, I was immediately turned off by the ***** appearance of it, but for entertainment purposes I clicked the ad and when I clicked on "features and specs" it didn't even say how much horsepower it had! That's one of the most important things to list in the specs. Well, I come to find out it's powered by this little 1.8L engine that makes 138 horsepower - no wonder they weren't eager to list the horsepower in the specs! Now, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against an automaker producing a car with that little horsepower but to market it as "sport compact"? Geeezz, they're in for some tough competition. I hope they don't expect this thing to compete with the Eclipse, Altima coupe, Solara coupe, Accord coupe, Civic SI, etc cuz the sport compact market is highly competitive right now.
 
Before my latest anti-GM rant gets flamed, I just wanna clarify my point of view on the Saturn Astra:
Perhaps it is a very nice, reliable car with awesome fuel economy and a great price tag to boot. However, I'm simply criticizing the fact it's being marketed as a "sport compact." That's like calling a Nissan Versa or a Toyota Yaris sport compact - it's just the wrong class. Now, I think the Saturn Astra would be better suited to be a competitor to the Yaris and Versa. I will say that GM has made a couple very nice sport compacts in the last few years (ex. Cobalt SS - the LSJ engine is very smooth and powerful, G6 coupe - very nice 3.6L engine with Australian refinement), so I don't understand why they'd need to bring the Saturn Astra into thier sport compact line-up.
 
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Toyota has not attempted to Lexize the Corolla.




That is true, however think of the first generations of "Lexus" and a dressed up 1991 Camry
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...this was nothing more than a top of the line 89' camry. What a way to launch a 'luxury' Marque... North Americans really appointed it the "exclusivity of a Lexus"
 
How about those small Nova's from the 80's? Oh, wait I think that may have been a rebadged Toyota....
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Toyota has not attempted to Lexize the Corolla.




That is true, however think of the first generations of "Lexus" and a dressed up 1991 Camry
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Lexus-ES250-2.jpg

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...this was nothing more than a top of the line 89' camry. What a way to launch a 'luxury' Marque... North Americans really appointed it the "exclusivity of a Lexus"




Those were actually Toyota Cressidas. I used to have one (the Toyota model), and it's larger than a Camry of similar vintage. Came with a 200 hp non-turbo 7M-GE (3.0 I6 out of a Supra) known for blowing headgaskets just because it felt like it.
 
you guys got to admit, GM is making more reliable vehicles now. the ecotec is a prime example of that. GM makes a reliable auto trans too. from what I understand, the intake manifold issues has been resolved. So all these posts about GM vehicles are from 20-30 model years.
 
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Here's Time magazines list of the 50 worst cars of all time. No Vega or other GM H body made the list, the 2002 BMW 7 series did though.
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http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/completelist/0,,1658545,00.html



That article belongs at the top of a 50 worst articles list.

They put the Model T on their list because they blame it for making people like cars, which led to pollution. Huh? And the Explorer is on there because millions of people bought them, and for some reason that bothers Time. A lot of the vehicles on the list are just the usual scapegoats the author probably pulled from some run of the mill worst cars book on the bargain shelf at Borders.


I read what they had to say about the Corvair and the Crosley
Hot shot what a load of Bull but what else would one expect from time magazine.
 
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Toyota has not attempted to Lexize the Corolla.




That is true, however think of the first generations of "Lexus" and a dressed up 1991 Camry
tongue.gif


Lexus-ES250-2.jpg

Lexus-ES250-1.jpg


...this was nothing more than a top of the line 89' camry. What a way to launch a 'luxury' Marque... North Americans really appointed it the "exclusivity of a Lexus"




Those were actually Toyota Cressidas. I used to have one (the Toyota model), and it's larger than a Camry of similar vintage. Came with a 200 hp non-turbo 7M-GE (3.0 I6 out of a Supra) known for blowing headgaskets just because it felt like it.




No, those weren't Cressidas either. It was powered by the Camry's 2.5L V6 and was loosely based on the JDM Toyota Vista. Which coincidentally is the Japanese version of the Camry with a different front/rear end.
 
My 2003 Saturn ION has a great engine and transmission, but many other thing on it were junk.

It had replaced:
2 AC control panels
1 Body Control Module
1 Evaporator drain hose
Too many turn signal bulbs
And the headlight seals leaked. Because they weren't covered, I dried the headlights and resealed them by myself.

This is not as good as some of the Japanese cars my dad owned. My mom, however, had some of the most unreliable cars ever to come from Japan. Now mom and dad own American cars because the price of Japanese cars has risen so much.
 
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That was actually a camry XLE and came with the V6. The 3.0 I6 was actually and excellent motor without the turbo in the supra and cressida. Unfortunately mine had the turbo and it did blow head gaskets regularly for no apparent reason. I refuse to ever own another toyota or turbo car again. These motors made my ss look easy to work on and parts were so expensive it was ludicrous. You can buy supras all day long that need head gaskets for around 1200 bucks. I would love to pick one up cheap and put an LS1 chevy in it. Unfortunately it would still have that fragile IRS and be just like all the other 600hp turbo supras out there that run mid to high 12s with 600 hp.
 
The Corvair was well before my time. I have to admit that I really like the look of them. It reminds me of the BMW 2002, in a way. Here is a 6 minute promotional film or commercial about the 1960 Corvair. It is really well done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTP7mK6nShM

They really play up the off road capabilities of the car in this, believe it or not. If I'd seen this commercial, I'd have definitely wanted to check it out. I'll also add that people I know who had one all remember it as a fun car.
 
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