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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: Don Stefanik] #1355928
01/29/09 06:06 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Don Stefanik
Check out these tests.

On gear lubes.

Gear lube tests.

On motorcycle oil's.

Motorcycle oil tests.


I find those very hard to believe.


If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: daman] #1360651
02/02/09 10:06 PM
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And it appears the flash point was reduced somewhat as well.

Would I use a 115 cSt oil mix in my vehicle. No way!


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: TLC3] #1364919
02/06/09 04:11 PM
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 Originally Posted By: TLC3
Lucas is top notch would not change my trucks oil without it.One with over 360000 miles and no oil useage.Can't hurt.


This ought to change your mind:

Lucas Virgin
TBN - 0.1
Visc - 615.3
FP - 435
Calcium - 3
Magnesium - 1
Phosphorus - 4
Zinc - 2

It's pointless, no matter who says what. I used to be stubborn (check page 2 or 3 of this thread) and said I still liked it after seeing that... but shortly after, I realized it was better to not be so stubborn.

This stuff is a subtractive, not an additive. It's only good in an engine that either leaks or smokes/burns a ton of oil IMO.

I wouldn't use it in a GOOD engine for anything. It makes your overall add pack 1/4 to 1/5 weaker (depends on how much you use and the size of your sump) and makes your oil way too thick.


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: Jaymus] #1379926
02/20/09 08:54 AM
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Sioux Falls, SD
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I sent in a virgin oil sample of the Lucas Oil Stabilizer last year. Here are the reults. No additives, just a big viscosity improver -



The viscosity on this analysis is CST/100*C


Last edited by White_Buffalo; 02/20/09 08:59 AM.

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: easytim] #1380592
02/20/09 09:16 PM
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Guys, I meticulously track my mileage ... to the point where I would notice tenths of an increase or decrease. If you want to 'test' the effect of products on your mileage, you MUST do this. Saying "I get between 18 - 22mpg" is completely useless as back up. Often any increases and decreases will be slight and meticulous data is required to quantify them.

I ask anyone that claims products increase or decrease fuel economy, please post at least 5 data points before and 5 data points after the change. Take an average and compare. If you are honest, and drove the same way, the same mix of city and highway, you'll have a legitimate claim.

This stuff thickens oil ... period. That thicker oil may provide better protection ... but the industry has been going to thinner lubes like 5W-20 ... which have been performing really well according to UOAs.

The seat of the pants dyno is saying these engines run better with this stuff? Smoother? Well of course a thicker oil will dampen mechanical noises coming from the engine. This does not mean it is protecting better ... just masking the sound of a worn or out-of-adjustment engine.

The idea that a thicker oil (with no known friction modifiers) with greater hydrodynamic drag will increase fuel economy flies in the face of simple physics. Where is the savings coming from? What principle of physics is at play here?

But if you can provide good data to back it up, I'm willing to look, listen and learn. :)


--- Bror Jace
2015 Mazda 3 iSport
2005 Honda S2000
Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: Bror Jace] #1380786
02/21/09 01:11 AM
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124 CST!


100 characters ehh?
Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: Buffman] #1382543
02/22/09 08:20 PM
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Well, now that I know the Visc, it could be used it in small amounts to get a viscosity I want...


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: Colt45ws] #1382619
02/22/09 09:46 PM
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moe in wichita ks
a guy on an other forum ( talking about oil additives) said that if the product a copany has is any good someone will do a test that shows its a good product. SO WHERES THE lucas TEST?
i realy know where it is i just like to beat up on lucas

Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: morris] #1382963
02/23/09 10:13 AM
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Onmo'Eegusee,
True, but I'd rather use a slightly thicker motor oil ... instead of something that dilutes the additive package.


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: Bror Jace] #1384037
02/24/09 06:27 AM
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I agree. But it could be useful. I wouldnt use it in any more than about 5%, which will still thicken it appreciably. I have another use in mind for it, but Im not going to buy it.. Have to get ahold of an empty bottle and grab the scraping off the inside... should be more than enough..


-Colton
2002 Ford Crown Vic PI 207k, Ex-Kootenai County, ID Unit #42
Down for engine swap
2003 Ford Crown Vic PI 86k
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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: morris] #1386249
02/26/09 07:12 AM
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 Originally Posted By: morris
moe in wichita ks
a guy on an other forum ( talking about oil additives) said that if the product a copany has is any good someone will do a test that shows its a good product. SO WHERES THE lucas TEST?
i realy know where it is i just like to beat up on lucas


They are too busy building that football stadium with the profits.....LOL


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: Shup1] #1398269
03/10/09 01:48 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Shup1

Happened right after I found out Santa wasn't real!



Santa's real

Lucas oil and the guy who lives in the clouds is fake.


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: bruce381] #1398960
03/10/09 06:47 PM
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Has anyone tried the synthetic formula? It's much thinner.

Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: KA426] #1406342
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Question: What in oil is this third party additive supposed to stabilize?


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer [Re: MolaKule] #1406501
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The payment on the stadium, don't need any more banks going under.


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