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Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? #881590 04/15/07 08:04 PM
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I'm getting tired of paying John Deere's prices for their Low Viscosity Hy-Gard (aka Hy-Tran) fluid, otherwise known as "J20D".

Any one know of a substitute for this, from someone like Shell or Mystik?


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Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04] #881591 04/15/07 10:37 PM
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What other suppliers do you use.
Any of the major oil companies ( Shell, Exxon, etc) will have generic hydraulic/transmission fluids.


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Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Don Stefanik] #881592 04/16/07 01:40 AM
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Amsoil,Chevron,Shell,Scgaeffers,Valvoline.etc.

Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Steve S] #881593 04/16/07 05:10 AM
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Big R's, Farm fleet, rural king, most NAPA's in Central Il all carry a low priced universal tractor fluid that meets the jd specs.


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Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: salesrep] #881594 04/16/07 11:21 PM
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Just to clarify...

All of these manufacturers/stores have the equivalent of *low-viscosity* Hy-Gard?

I'm not referring to the regular stuff...

If they all carry the equivalent of los-vis Hy-Gard, then what rock have I been under???

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Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04] #881595 04/16/07 11:35 PM
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I misread. They very well may not have a low vis equiv.
I would think the local jobber would carry an equiv.


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Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04] #881596 04/18/07 02:12 AM
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Citgo has Lo-Temp Trans Gard that meets the J20D spec.. Not sure if there is a Mystic(Citgo) equivalent.

Amsoil and Chevron have single products that meet BOTH the C and D rating. Top notch products, but initial cost probably won't be less.

Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: doitmyself] #881597 05/01/07 05:35 AM
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Texas Refinery Corp's Special Low Temp Universal Torque Fluid meets the JD J20D spec. It has a -50 deg pour point so low temp operation shouldn't be a problem.

Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Wrehch] #881598 09/18/07 12:17 AM
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Chevron "Synthetic All-Weather THF" meets JD J20C and J20D specs. Viscosity at 40*C/100*C is 44.7/9.5 cSt.

Chevron "THF W" meets J20D only. Viscosity at 40*C/100*C is 34.4/7.3 cSt.


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Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: marco246] #881599 10/21/07 10:38 PM
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Shell's product is Donax TDL.

Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04] #1024108 11/07/07 10:42 AM
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I'm getting tired of paying John Deere's prices for their Low Viscosity Hy-Gard

How much are they charging for it mrsilv04? Reason I ask is a guy at the TractorByNet forum said he paid some amazing amount, like $10/qt or something, and I just got some from my local J-D guy on Saturday for $12/gal for my X595. It's definitely J20D "Low-Vis/HyGard".


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Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: RWEST] #1118399 03/30/08 08:27 PM
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Im curretly using Schaeffers Simplex in my 790. Works fine however not low vis. I did't I need low vis in Texas summer only use.


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Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Neil Womack] #1118453 03/30/08 10:10 PM
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I am using Amsoil Synthetic Tractor Hydraulic/Transmission Oil
SAE 5W-30 (ATH) in my JD lawn tractor. It meets the specs for the J20D fluid.


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Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04] #2161528 02/04/11 11:12 PM
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According to the Official John Deere service manual for Lawn Tractors LX255,LX266,LX277,LX2 (TM1754), You Can use a SAE 5W or 10W30 Oil (Synthetic or Mineral) or John Deere HY-GARD J20C Oil. Its your choice. I had some HY-GARD on the shelf in the garage that meets the J20D spec, but if I run out, its nice to know that I can use an SAE motor oil. I'd put a copy of the PDF on here if it was legal, but unfortunately I had to pay money to John Deere for it and I don't want to be sued for copyright stuff.

Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04] #2169388 02/12/11 06:57 PM
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What's the application here?

For what it's worth, Deere does specify engine oil to be used as hydraulic fluid in quite a few applications- including machines that are far more expensive and powerful than lawn tractors. They'll often have a chart in the operator's manual showing a variety of engine oil viscosities and either standard or low-vis hyguard, depending on temperature range.

Case also uses engine oil in some of their skidsteer hydraulic systems. But they have an additional additive to put in with the 10w30.

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