I just bought CRC synthetic brake & caliper grease tonight. Also saw the permatex caliper lube in the green bottle. Would have to say the crc is better. It's a PAO with esters, has silica, graphite, and molydisulfide in it. It's a much thicker tackier grease than the permatex stuff which was more smooth and less viscous. So I foresee the crc lubing guide pins better in the long run. The crc says good to 600F whereas permatex stuff says 400F. And the CRC i bought, same as in the picture, 8oz bottle, was $10. The permatex cost more.
Anti-squeal grease for brake pads
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Any idea how the CRC lube compares to Sylglide when used on guide pins?
From: http://www.aa1car.com/library/2005/ic80560.htm
If sylglide is silicone-based and CRC's product is PAO based, then I'd use the CRC product.
Now, it's time for me to get my buddy BOB to do some field testing of the CRC product especially in terms of noise reduction.
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Well, your brakes squeal, so I'm not sure I'd go with your recommendation.
Audi squeaky brake bulletin
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you apparently went more on price than anything else.
have you ever opened a bottle of the Permatex green? must not, because that stuff is thicker than any "grease" I've ever used.
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You guys are still disecting brake lubes? Everyone with OCD please raise your hand.....mine's up first.
My opinion(worth everything you pay me for them), the fact that you are seeking out a brake specific lube puts you way ahead of the game (vs. petroleum lube).
Which is best, CRC/STA Lube, Permatex, Silglide, or Dow 111?
My guess is they all get the job done well for the enclosed metal/rubber guide pins. Exterior sliding parts - I think the high solids pastes I mentioned in earlier posts work better. Before internet education, many of us successfully used anti-seize sparingly on exterior parts.
Notes of interest:
The CRC has less than 2% of those moly/graphite/teflon thingies. Barely just enough to make any difference, but maybe good marketing ingredients to edge it above the Permatex.
Silglide's MSDS barely mentions silicone and is cryptic. Unlike the 111, Silglide turns from clear to yellow when exposed to air - it "seems" different than pure silicone. Yet, Silglide has been a brake mainstay in many shops for eons and is a proven performer.
Ford OEM specs. silicone dielectric grease for all caliper applications (in and out). That's opposite of the info presented in Critic's link to that excellent Carley brake lube article. Guess we can't believe everything/anything!
I was surprised the Permatex was only rated to 400 degrees. It IS a synthetic (not silicone).
Permatex just introduced a purple ceramic brake lube good for 2800 degrees. I suspect it is the SAME product Bendix gets from Ceramlube (also 2800 deg., purple):
http://www.permatex.com/documents/tds/automotive/24125.pdf
So, while there are excellent over the counter brake lubes, there are also "Gold Castrol" type brake lubes for BITOG members.
My opinion(worth everything you pay me for them), the fact that you are seeking out a brake specific lube puts you way ahead of the game (vs. petroleum lube).
Which is best, CRC/STA Lube, Permatex, Silglide, or Dow 111?
My guess is they all get the job done well for the enclosed metal/rubber guide pins. Exterior sliding parts - I think the high solids pastes I mentioned in earlier posts work better. Before internet education, many of us successfully used anti-seize sparingly on exterior parts.
Notes of interest:
The CRC has less than 2% of those moly/graphite/teflon thingies. Barely just enough to make any difference, but maybe good marketing ingredients to edge it above the Permatex.
Silglide's MSDS barely mentions silicone and is cryptic. Unlike the 111, Silglide turns from clear to yellow when exposed to air - it "seems" different than pure silicone. Yet, Silglide has been a brake mainstay in many shops for eons and is a proven performer.
Ford OEM specs. silicone dielectric grease for all caliper applications (in and out). That's opposite of the info presented in Critic's link to that excellent Carley brake lube article. Guess we can't believe everything/anything!
I was surprised the Permatex was only rated to 400 degrees. It IS a synthetic (not silicone).
Permatex just introduced a purple ceramic brake lube good for 2800 degrees. I suspect it is the SAME product Bendix gets from Ceramlube (also 2800 deg., purple):
http://www.permatex.com/documents/tds/automotive/24125.pdf
So, while there are excellent over the counter brake lubes, there are also "Gold Castrol" type brake lubes for BITOG members.
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Hmm. The new Permatex stuff looks interesting. I have two pouches of the green synthetic disc brake caliper lube that I'm going to return. The new stuff hasn't reached here yet, so I'm going to wait for the new stuff to come out and then buy a bottle! Looks like its the new flagship brake lube of the industry, bar none. Thanks, wouldn't have known about this had you not posted it.
Hmmm! I've never seen the CRC brand. Gee! Half the price. I'll have to look elsewhere. Thanks!
CRC is also marketed as Sta lube (NAPA), not to be confused with products designed to enhance love making sessions.
New, yes. Different, yes. Fun to try, definitely. Better??????? I guess the old products of the past two dozen years are why all of our vehicles have been crashing into trees.
I just finished painting my living room with ceramic enhanced paint (not the insulating type). Supposed to make it kid (crayon) proof. Ceramic (as in brakes also) seems to be the newest marketing hype.
New, yes. Different, yes. Fun to try, definitely. Better??????? I guess the old products of the past two dozen years are why all of our vehicles have been crashing into trees.
I just finished painting my living room with ceramic enhanced paint (not the insulating type). Supposed to make it kid (crayon) proof. Ceramic (as in brakes also) seems to be the newest marketing hype.
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From: http://www.dodgeintrepid.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-64193.html
I think I'm going to call them on Monday to get my free sample.
This place will send sample tubs of Paste Lube and Ceramlub for about $4.00. He caters mostly to shops, so if he asks, just say you have a "shop":
http://www.gwrauto.com/
And my final post on this thread, I promise. Regarding "science, not myths and old wives tales". After 30 years mariage, I prefer the old wife's tail!
http://www.gwrauto.com/
And my final post on this thread, I promise. Regarding "science, not myths and old wives tales". After 30 years mariage, I prefer the old wife's tail!
Squeaking brakes let my wife know I'm home. No point getting all stealthy on her now. LOL, just kidding.
So far I use the grease AutoZone gives me for 99 cents (I think it's actually 1.19 now) with every set of pads I buy from them. I never hear from the brakes after that until the wear indicators start scraping. Or after those snap off and it grinds. Or later on when the rivets start catching burrs of metal.
I try real hard to change pads before the wear indicators hit the rotor. But if I hear the slightest grinding sound I know I need to buy new rotors and I'll just keep going until the brakes are no longer effective, drive home using the parking brake, and spend the rest of the evening getting it all changed out.
As for squeaking rear brakes, I've never done a set of rears but since the drums on the wife's Taurus are getting talkative, I may be experiencing that soon.
So far I use the grease AutoZone gives me for 99 cents (I think it's actually 1.19 now) with every set of pads I buy from them. I never hear from the brakes after that until the wear indicators start scraping. Or after those snap off and it grinds. Or later on when the rivets start catching burrs of metal.
I try real hard to change pads before the wear indicators hit the rotor. But if I hear the slightest grinding sound I know I need to buy new rotors and I'll just keep going until the brakes are no longer effective, drive home using the parking brake, and spend the rest of the evening getting it all changed out.
As for squeaking rear brakes, I've never done a set of rears but since the drums on the wife's Taurus are getting talkative, I may be experiencing that soon.
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