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#560108 - 01/30/05 10:09 AM Using transmission fluid to clean an engine.
adreed24 Offline

Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 117
Loc: Baltimore, Maryland U.S.A.
I heard from someone, who works on older cars (especially ones that have sat idle for months and even years), a technique he uses for cleaning "sticky and/or ticking lifters".

He told me to add a quart of "Dexron/Mercon III automatic transmission fluid", to the existing engine oil. Then, he says to let the engine idle until it has reached its normal operating temperature. Then, you drain the oil, with the ATF in it, and replace the oil and filter with new.

He said the ATF won't hurt the engine (especially the bearings, like some motor flush products can) and the "detergent power" does a good job of cleaning.

Does this sound like it would work and not cause harm?

Any opinions?

#560109 - 01/30/05 11:47 AM Re: Using transmission fluid to clean an engine.
mechtech Offline

Registered: 08/11/04
Posts: 2387
Loc: Chicago area
I believe that even though widespread, and often utilized, this is a myth that should be abolished.
There are no detergents in ATF, so no magic properties. Adding any very light oil would do the same - that is, a tiny bit of flushing occurring.

#560110 - 01/30/05 01:41 PM Re: Using transmission fluid to clean an engine.
Quest Offline

Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 7355
Loc: beaver land EH?
just another one of those old wife's tale.

If you want your engine to last longer and perform it's best, read all the BITOG posts in the past and also consider using some of BITOG's sponsor's products (FP, AutoRx,etc.) I've used AutoRx on my engine and I'm never more happier.

p.s. I used to do small import engine blueprinting and repairs for SCCA racing.

#560111 - 01/30/05 06:03 PM Re: Using transmission fluid to clean an engine.
Mike_dup1 Offline

Registered: 11/17/02
Posts: 3013
Loc: USA-Michigan
ATF is more or less a hydraulic fluid. Putting in the engine will do nothing.

I use synthetic ATF in the hydraulic system on my Western snow plow.

#560112 - 01/30/05 06:44 PM Re: Using transmission fluid to clean an engine.
kenw Offline

Registered: 10/10/04
Posts: 1979
Loc: Houston
The only way I've seen this help is to literally pour it down the throat of an Olds 350/2bbl we had, via a leaky transmission vaccuum modulator. Sucked 5 qts thru before we figured out why we were fogging mosquitos everywhere we went, and why the car ran like a 3 legged camel in a swamp....

Purely by accident but it sure ran smoother than it had in years.

#560113 - 01/30/05 07:42 PM Re: Using transmission fluid to clean an engine.
slalom44 Offline

Registered: 10/26/03
Posts: 801
Loc: Granville, Ohio
This was common practice decades ago amoung gearheads. Back in the '80s, I had a '76 Mustang II that sludged up pretty badly. It was so bad that the oil ports going through/to the camshaft lobes were plugged. The car started screeching one morning - I popped of the head cover, opened up the ports by rodding them out with a thin wire, and the screeching disappeared. There was a film of gunk coating the entire engine.

Then I took the advice of a gearhead friend at work. I poured a quart of ATF in the crankcase, left it in there for 100 miles, and drained/replaced the oil & filter. I didn't have a problem with the car after that.

A few months later I parted out the car and sold the engine to another friend. He dropped the oilpan just to make sure that everything was OK, and he told me that the engine and pan were spotless.

Yes, ATF fluids have significant amounts of detergents. I can't say if this is a good practice on today's engines, but experience tells me that it definitely works. And since many engine flushes contain large amounts of kerosene, I'd think that ATF is likely better for your engine.

#560114 - 01/31/05 01:30 AM Re: Using transmission fluid to clean an engine.
ZR2RANDO Offline

Registered: 06/10/02
Posts: 885
Loc: North Carolina
or Marvel Mystery Oil..

#560115 - 01/31/05 11:07 PM Re: Using transmission fluid to clean an engine.
JohnBrowning Offline

Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 9448
Loc: USA
Does not work! ATF does not have 1/5 the additives of plain jane motor oil. The base stock in most cases is old school parrifin based group I. Nothing magical about ATF. It is an old wives tale. If you have rusted parts use a penatrent like PB Blaster, Mouse Milk, Kroil, Pentro 90 etc...If you need to clean sludge use 131,Auto-Rx, Lube Control,Amsoil flush, B-12. Some of these are better then others. Some are better on sludge and some are better on varnish.

#560116 - 02/01/05 09:53 PM Re: Using transmission fluid to clean an engine.
Gary Allan Offline

Registered: 09/28/02
Posts: 39806
Loc: Pottstown, PA
I think the only feature that was ever present in ATF for this use was as a viscosity reducer. The stuff goes from a 10 weight to a 5 weight in normal use (if I read the UOA vs. VOA on them). So you probalbly got some goo to flow out of the engine when you changed it.

This was a factory recommended add for some SBC to reduce lifter noise in certain years. This, I think, is where the practice gained mythical credibiltiy.