UPDATE: 2011 F150 3.5 Ecoboost at 239,000 miles

[wemay]

What does Ford know that the other companies don't? I don't hear or read about many oil related issues (deposits, stuck rings, consumption etc.). All while running MC filters and MC synthetic blend 5W30.

Great job Ford!

This video is an update to the 200K mile video presented some time ago.




This is the original video:

 

[Lolvoguy]

Yes, great job Ford.
Drilling holes in the intercooler to get rid of the "condensation" (which is mostly oil) as it builds up, is perfectly normal.

 

[PowerSurge]

Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
Yes, great job Ford.
Drilling holes in the intercooler to get rid of the "condensation" (which is mostly oil) as it builds up, is perfectly normal.

Exactly. I wouldn't be bragging about Ford's engine durability. I recently talked to a lady in the Publix parking lot who was stranded after her Ecoboost Escape wouldn't start because it overheated from consuming all of its coolant. Luckily, it was her car company car and was still under warranty and this was the SECOND time it had happened to her. I told her cars aren't supposed to drink their coolant. We both laughed.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Those 1.5 / 1.6 engines have been problematic from the start. But of all the ecoboost engines out there, those are the oldest basic design dating back to the 90s - Sigma / Zeta . 2.0/2.3 are the Duratec/MZR, 2.7 is clean slate and 3.5 is related to the duratec v6.

 

[pbm]

Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
Yes, great job Ford.
Drilling holes in the intercooler to get rid of the "condensation" (which is mostly oil) as it builds up, is perfectly normal.

Exactly. I wouldn't be bragging about Ford's engine durability. I recently talked to a lady in the Publix parking lot who was stranded after her Ecoboost Escape wouldn't start because it overheated from consuming all of its coolant. Luckily, it was her car company car and was still under warranty and this was the SECOND time it had happened to her. I told her cars aren't supposed to drink their coolant. We both laughed.



My Chevy Cruze drank coolant....it also gave off a coolant smell that was sickening.

I avoided the 1.5T when I bought our 2016 Escape and went for the 2.5 NA instead. The 2.5 (and all of the Duratechs) are excellent engines.

 

[CarbonSteel]

Not too shabby for a 1st Gen 3.5L (2011 was the first year the F-150 received the engine). I have read about timing chain issues, but not so much about DI issues (aside from dilution).

 

[Barkleymut]

Love my Fords, but I still don't want anything to do with a turbo engine. I also cannot imagine going much more than 4k before changing oil

 

[IndyFan]

Our Ecoboost (2nd one due to a quickie oil change tech error) is running strong. The first one did, too, until the oil guy destroyed it. 10k OCI's on Mobil 1 EP and Fram Ultra filters. My issues with the Transit are with the cheap interior bits falling off and with the sliding door sensor, which has been replaced 3x and still thinks the door is always open.

 

[pbm]

I actually think Ford made better 4 cylinder engines than GM.

Pinto vs. Vega....the Pinto engines 1.6, 2.0 and 2.3 were excellent...too bad the rest of the car wasn't....the Vega engine sucked.

Fiesta vs. Chevette....again the Fiesta engines were better IMO

Escort vs. Cavalier....the 1.9 Escort was a good engine with a proclivity to drop valve seats...the 2.2 Cavalier was a strong engine but very agricultural sounding...I give the nod to Chevy.

Focus (Duratech) vs. Various GM's using the Ecotec...SInce Ford's engine is a Mazda design and GMs is an Opel design...this isn't a true Ford vs. GM comparo...but I'd take the
Duratech since it didn't have any timing chain issues.

The Opel/Daewoo designed small turbo's vs. Ford's small turbo's...close....I'd avoid both (except the 2.0 turbo in the Focus ST seems really good)...

 

[Ram02]

GM 2.0T Ecotec VS Ford 2.0 Ecoboost which one will you guys pick on here??

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Originally Posted by IndyFan
Our Ecoboost (2nd one due to a quickie oil change tech error) is running strong. The first one did, too, until the oil guy destroyed it. 10k OCI's on Mobil 1 EP and Fram Ultra filters. My issues with the Transit are with the cheap interior bits falling off and with the sliding door sensor, which has been replaced 3x and still thinks the door is always open.

Is somebody big, huge, heavy / obese, been pulling down on the sliding transit door, when entering and/or departing it, for the past five years?

 

[nascarnation]

Ford has shown some stout longevity with the Crown Vics and the Escape hybrid taxis.
But like everybody they have some losers too.
My buddy's 2yr old F-150 with the 5.0 is sucking oil like an old Saturn and may be headed for a warranty rebuild if he can convince the dealer it's bad enough.

 

[ThirdeYe]

My Accord was just getting broken in at that mileage.

 

[CT8]

Changing oil and other proper maintenance does wonders and some luck. Even with MC synthetic blend 5W30.

 

[tcp71]

Since ford started plasma coating the cylinder bores, the 5.0 trucks have had oil consumption issues. There is a tsb to reprogram the egr to help, but not sure is fully effective. Our 2016 3.5 eco has been good so far. Hauls 7000lb worth of trailer like nobody's business. The 157" wheelbase helps with a 29ft trailer. Hoping for the same longevity as the one in the video.

Originally Posted by nascarnation
Ford has shown some stout longevity with the Crown Vics and the Escape hybrid taxis.
But like everybody they have some losers too.
My buddy's 2yr old F-150 with the 5.0 is sucking oil like an old Saturn and may be headed for a warranty rebuild if he can convince the dealer it's bad enough.

 

[Gene K]

Originally Posted by nascarnation
Ford has shown some stout longevity with the Crown Vics and the Escape hybrid taxis.
But like everybody they have some losers too.
My buddy's 2yr old F-150 with the 5.0 is sucking oil like an old Saturn and may be headed for a warranty rebuild if he can convince the dealer it's bad enough.


The PCV TSB didn't help at all? It helps most and totally eliminates consumption on a lot of them.

For some reason the 5.0 GDI has had more teething problems than most of the others.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Originally Posted by Gene K


For some reason the 5.0 GDI has had more teething problems than most of the others.



That 5.0 may need an ASE Certified Dentist.

 

[nascarnation]

Originally Posted by Gene K
Originally Posted by nascarnation
Ford has shown some stout longevity with the Crown Vics and the Escape hybrid taxis.
But like everybody they have some losers too.
My buddy's 2yr old F-150 with the 5.0 is sucking oil like an old Saturn and may be headed for a warranty rebuild if he can convince the dealer it's bad enough.


The PCV TSB didn't help at all? It helps most and totally eliminates consumption on a lot of them.

For some reason the 5.0 GDI has had more teething problems than most of the others.



Not sure if he's got that fix in or not. Haven't seen him since Covid set in. They were doing an oil measurement test where he had to stop by the shop for regular measurements.
I do know this truck has probably had ten warranty visits in 2 yrs, which really surprised me because it's a beautiful rig. It drives like a Lexus.

 

[Gene K]

Originally Posted by nascarnation
Originally Posted by Gene K
Originally Posted by nascarnation
Ford has shown some stout longevity with the Crown Vics and the Escape hybrid taxis.
But like everybody they have some losers too.
My buddy's 2yr old F-150 with the 5.0 is sucking oil like an old Saturn and may be headed for a warranty rebuild if he can convince the dealer it's bad enough.


The PCV TSB didn't help at all? It helps most and totally eliminates consumption on a lot of them.

For some reason the 5.0 GDI has had more teething problems than most of the others.



Not sure if he's got that fix in or not. Haven't seen him since Covid set in. They were doing an oil measurement test where he had to stop by the shop for regular measurements.
I do know this truck has probably had ten warranty visits in 2 yrs, which really surprised me because it's a beautiful rig. It drives like a Lexus.


Well all I've really got to go own is the two F150 Ecoboost I've owned (2.7 & 3.5), my 5.0 Mustang, our Lincoln MKX 3.7 and the F150 3.5EB (430,000 mi) at work. Other than the odd recall plus a throttle body, few sensors and turbo oil line fittings (on the work truck) none of them have needed anything other than normal maintenance.

If I ever had three of a brand eat engines within warranty (buddy with GM) I would likely decide they were not for me. So I certainly won't blame anyone else for doing the same. Even though it's likely not really statistically significant in the big scheme of things.

 

[KevinP]

I sought out the NA 3.7 without DI for the simple reason that my OCD won't permit me to sleep well with all the evil things modern engines are doing to my oil. LOL..