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Eco Diesel failure #5466614 06/30/20 07:33 PM
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My Fathers 2018 Dodge ecodiesel engine failed on him. He purchased the truck new, & he is 77.

He has only got about 32,000 kilometers on it, or less than 20000 miles.

I am not sure which oil he was using in it. Oil changes were being done in a local garage, but I believe he was supplying the oil to be used.

He had been driving a VW TDI diesel prior to this, & was probably still using up the same Diesel oil that was recommended for the VW diesel. Hopefully it meets the Dodge Specs, & they don't deny him warranty. He also had an older Ford F250 diesel.

Looks like the owners manual pretty much recommends Shell Rotella (T6 I assume, as it doesn't really say in the book)

Re: Eco Diesel failure [Re: cdlamb] #5466620 06/30/20 07:40 PM
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What failed?

Re: Eco Diesel failure [Re: cdlamb] #5466629 06/30/20 07:59 PM
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I think they told him it was a main bearing.

Sounds like they already got an engine on order, but they are apparently on backorder, & don't know how long before it will come in.

He was pulling a light duty trailer with 2 ATV's on it, & engine started to make noise, & just died.

Said there was even a puddle of oil on the road.

Re: Eco Diesel failure [Re: cdlamb] #5466632 06/30/20 08:04 PM
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WARRANTY? The Eco Diesels seem to be trouble some engines per internet blather.


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Re: Eco Diesel failure [Re: cdlamb] #5466638 06/30/20 08:20 PM
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That's what I heard. Common internal failures. Keep your mouth shut about the oil unless they ask, but if they ordered an engine no questions asked, then that's also a clue that this isn't a fluke.


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Re: Eco Diesel failure [Re: CT8] #5466640 06/30/20 08:22 PM
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the eco diesel engines are garbage, they are so bad the local Maple Ridge Dodge dealer has warranty engines on crates in the back waiting for installation

list of dead engines, many failed just after the first oil change, I have head of them seizing while being backed off the delivery truck, some vehicles already have replacement engines installed before the first test drive

they seem to fail either almost instantly after being installed or just after the warranty expires

https://www.ram1500diesel.com/threads/eco-diesel-engine-failures.8564/

https://www.ram1500diesel.com/threads/2015-ecodiesel-engine-failure-111-000km.64018/

https://www.jeepgarage.org/threads/...replacement-engine-any-different.204011/

class action lawsuit

https://www.sauderschelkopf.com/inv...gine-failure-class-action-investigation/

Re: Eco Diesel failure [Re: cdlamb] #5466645 06/30/20 08:27 PM
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This is very disappointing. I've always been fond of "consumer diesel engines" gaining an edge.

Re: Eco Diesel failure [Re: cdlamb] #5466646 06/30/20 08:27 PM
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yea that extra $5000 engine buys alot of gas.. and I like turbo diesels.

IIRC they came with 5w30 orig.. then changed it after engines started imploding right and left.


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Re: Eco Diesel failure [Re: CT8] #5466651 06/30/20 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CT8
WARRANTY? The Eco Diesels seem to be trouble some engines per internet blather.

Agreed; I became engaged in a heated discussion in one of the Jeep forums about the issues with modern diesels and was more or less told I did not know what I was talking about. Said that Overkill's experience with constant regens was impossible and DPF/SCR/DEF was not as problematic as I suggested.

I laughed and said I hope you have a great service life with no issues, but I would not hold my breath on it, it is after all, a Fiat diesel. crackmeup


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Re: Eco Diesel failure [Re: Rand] #5466659 06/30/20 08:41 PM
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yea that extra $5000 engine buys alot of gas.. and I like turbo diesels.

IIRC they came with 5w30 orig.. then changed it after engines started imploding right and left.

Fairly certain the new spec is for 5W-40, but there are still issues.


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WARRANTY? The Eco Diesels seem to be trouble some engines per internet blather.

Agreed; I became engaged in a heated discussion in one of the Jeep forums about the issues with modern diesels and was more or less told I did not know what I was talking about. Said that Overkill's experience with constant regens was impossible and DPF/SCR/DEF was not as problematic as I suggested.

I laughed and said I hope you have a great service life with no issues, but I would not hold my breath on it, it is after all, a Fiat diesel. crackmeup


I think during those winter months my wife burned more fuel in regens than she did in driving LOL


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This is sad. I wanted to like the Eco-Diesel. The 2020 engine is supposed to be improved. I am not in the market any time soon, so I have time to watch how things turn out.


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Re: Eco Diesel failure [Re: cdlamb] #5466676 06/30/20 09:03 PM
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Are the new engines from VM or have they changed manufacturers?


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I service a friend's loaded 2015(?) Jeep GC with the EcoDiesel; it has about 85K.
I use Rotella T 5w40 regularly at 10K OCIs. I suggested we shorten the OCIs to 8K or less.
There have been warranty recalls, but so far so good. It was expensive.


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Re: Eco Diesel failure [Re: 2015_PSD] #5466690 06/30/20 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 2015_PSD
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WARRANTY? The Eco Diesels seem to be trouble some engines per internet blather.

Agreed; I became engaged in a heated discussion in one of the Jeep forums about the issues with modern diesels and was more or less told I did not know what I was talking about. Said that Overkill's experience with constant regens was impossible and DPF/SCR/DEF was not as problematic as I suggested.

I laughed and said I hope you have a great service life with no issues, but I would not hold my breath on it, it is after all, a Fiat diesel. crackmeup

Not all diesels are created equal, just ask average taxi owner in Europe.
Also, I had Lancia Lybra with 2.4 JTD 5cyl engine (FIAT) that made some 520k km under my belt, sold it to my worker who drove it until some 700k km, before he got drunk and slammed it into tree. This 3.0 Ecodiesel is outlier in FIAT fleet.

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