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Trans replacement '04 Toyota Avalon - options? #5465739 06/29/20 03:23 PM
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The Avalon's transmission is shot at 155k, in spite of services at 50k intervals.

It happens....

It's too nice of a car to scrap out, so here are our options.

A- $2800 trans shop installs reman, 3 year, 36k mile warranty
B- $2200 local independent shop pulls the tranny and rebuilds it in-house. No warranty.
C- $1500 local independent shop installs junkyard tranny with 90k. New filter/fluid. No warranty.

What would you do?

Re: Trans replacement '04 Toyota Avalon - options? [Re: Tyson] #5465744 06/29/20 03:28 PM
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That's your second transmission failure (not in the same vehicle), what's going on? Is it the mountains?

I'd want to know why it failed, so I'd lean towards getting the one you have now rebuilt. I'd install it myself if you could.


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Re: Trans replacement '04 Toyota Avalon - options? [Re: Tyson] #5465746 06/29/20 03:30 PM
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How long do you wanna keep the car?
If the independent shop is reputable, I would have them do a rebuild.

Good luck.


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Re: Trans replacement '04 Toyota Avalon - options? [Re: Tyson] #5465750 06/29/20 03:38 PM
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What would dealer cost?

Re: Trans replacement '04 Toyota Avalon - options? [Re: kschachn] #5465754 06/29/20 03:43 PM
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kdchachn,

We recently bought this car with a full Toyota dealer maintenance history. It was locally owned.

I was the driver when the trans failed. I was just finishing a 300 mile day on I70. Average MPG were 29.9. Ambient temps were high 90's to low 100's. A/C was ice cold. Coolant temp was steady. Car was sailing along at 84 mph for hours. I ease into town, and at the first stop light it grenaded. Slippage, then whining, then grinding. Nursed it home, trans fluid that was bright pink is noticeably darker and burned.

Last September, my GMC's rear diff failed, which I initially though was the trans.

I guess this comes with older vehicles, but I sure don't miss car payments!

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meadows,

Dealer cost is crazy. $2870 for a Toyota reman unit. Labor is $1015. 12 month warranty.

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Door A. If the car is really that nice you might as well have the warranty.
A broken tranny at 155,000 miles in a 16 year old car is usually a ticket to Pick and Pull. laugh

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If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Trans replacement '04 Toyota Avalon - options? [Re: Tyson] #5465765 06/29/20 03:56 PM
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if you are going to keep it more than 3 years i would go with option 1.

Re: Trans replacement '04 Toyota Avalon - options? [Re: Tyson] #5465769 06/29/20 04:04 PM
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What kind of a shop rebuilds your transmission for $2200 and gives no warranty? They should give you some kind of warranty even if its one where you have to bring it back to their shop.

I would go with one with a warranty if you spend over $2000.

How is engine, body, frame.

What is the book value on the car? Its a 16 yr old with 160K miles.

Are you planning on keeping is for several more years.

Here is the thing, you will not get much if any extra money for the transmission being recently rebuilt. People expect the vehicle to come with a working transmission.

So an option is to sell as is. Someone in the business will buy it and do the transmission work themselves and sell the car.


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Re: Trans replacement '04 Toyota Avalon - options? [Re: Tyson] #5465770 06/29/20 04:06 PM
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If I could find the service history and it was good, I would entertain C. You could do 2 of these for one of A. Just a thought...

With no service history on C, I'd go with A.

How much is the Avalon worth with a "new" transmission?


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Re: Trans replacement '04 Toyota Avalon - options? [Re: Tyson] #5465771 06/29/20 04:06 PM
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No way would I trust a shop to pull and rebuild it with no warranty so that idea is out. If you like the car and plan on keeping it I would spend the $2800 for the reman with warranty.


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Re: Trans replacement '04 Toyota Avalon - options? [Re: Tyson] #5465774 06/29/20 04:09 PM
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Option C. Those trans are usually fairly reliable.
Your cost for the dealer reman is average.


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Here's how I am thinking. You pay $2800 to get a $5000 Avalon back in service.

Or you take the $2800 and apply it to a "new" $5000 Avalon and sell your transmission-less Avalon for $2000 and you are in another
Avalon for $200 more money. Just giving you rough numbers in my feeble attempt to give you other potential options.

You have to apply the repair cost to the purchase of another vehicle. Honestly, I ain't this smart. I heard it on a Podcast coming back from vacation last week.

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I would shop a little more for a better price and a warranty at say a local shop. That year car in good shape other wise with those miles I'd be looking at keeping it on the road for another 6 years. My stepson has an auto Corolla with 247,000 miles on it roughly. Spill and fill two times still running like a champ. His is probably 80% freeway miles.


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Re: Trans replacement '04 Toyota Avalon - options? [Re: Gebo] #5465781 06/29/20 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Gebo
Here's how I am thinking. You pay $2800 to get a $5000 Avalon back in service.

Or you take the $2800 and apply it to a "new" $5000 Avalon and sell your transmission-less Avalon for $2000 and you are in another
Avalon for $200 more money. Just giving you rough numbers in my feeble attempt to give you other potential options.

You have to apply the repair cost to the purchase of another vehicle. Honestly, I ain't this smart. I heard it on a Podcast coming back from vacation last week.

He knows the condition of this Avalon. Buying another Avalon is an unknown - unless he can find a meticulously maintained Avalon for $3K with verifiable service records....which is very unlikely to happen.


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