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Supertech HD 30 CF-2 “SG” #5462871 06/25/20 09:49 PM
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Does anyone have a virgin oil analysis of this stuff?
I can’t find one anywhere, and PQIA didn’t sample it, either.

It’s $9 for a 2 gallon jug on clearance … I’ve got plenty of older farm equipment that it can go into, but other than being the “go-to” oil for 2-stroke Detroit diesels, I can’t imagine why they bothered to carry this stuff?


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
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Especially here in California. Those engines were banned 30 years ago.


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Re: Supertech HD 30 CF-2 “SG” [Re: Linctex] #5462904 06/25/20 10:39 PM
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I would buy it. I have lots of OPE that would love the stuff.

Re: Supertech HD 30 CF-2 “SG” [Re: Linctex] #5462916 06/25/20 11:05 PM
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Linctex; What special application are you going to use this oil for that would necessitate a VOA?
Maybe define what you want in a SAE 30 engine oil and go from there, instead of finding an engine oil on sale then trying to determine if it fits your application.

Yesterday you were looking for a shear stable 5w30. Are you considering a mono-grade mystery oil instead?

Re: Supertech HD 30 CF-2 “SG” [Re: Linctex] #5462936 06/25/20 11:47 PM
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Not surprised to see 30w on shelves. Lots of folks still think their lawn mower will explode if they put anything other than 30w in it.

Re: Supertech HD 30 CF-2 “SG” [Re: Linctex] #5463017 06/26/20 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Linctex
...but other than being the “go-to” oil for 2-stroke Detroit diesels...

Two stroke Detroits require 40 grade HD oil unless working in the Artic.


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Re: Supertech HD 30 CF-2 “SG” [Re: Linctex] #5463019 06/26/20 06:18 AM
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It's likely re-cycled oil. I bought a 5 gallon pail of SAE 40 for $10, which works out to $7.30 USD. 5 gallon pails of this and that fluids and engine oil are $47 Cdn or $34 US.
Next summer I'll run that SAE 40 in a LML Duramax and something that calls for 0w20 .Lawn mowers and tractors cost too much to replace to start experimenting.
SAE 30 is recommended because it's the best.

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Originally Posted by ka9mnx
Originally Posted by Linctex
...but other than being the “go-to” oil for 2-stroke Detroit diesels...

Two stroke Detroits require 40 grade HD oil unless working in the Artic.

Another reason to wonder why they sell it in Ca.


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Re: Supertech HD 30 CF-2 “SG” [Re: userfriendly] #5463177 06/26/20 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by userfriendly
Linctex; What special application are you going to use this oil for that would necessitate a VOA?

Because it’s brand-new production oil in 2020 with a CF2, SG rating… It doesn’t seem a little bit odd to anyone besides me??

I have plenty of older equipment from the 1970s, 60s, 50s, even 1940s… That will all use this oil *just fine*. I’m really curious to see what the additive pack is in it, though...
In a world of SN rated oils, why does this exist??


Originally Posted by userfriendly
It's likely re-cycled oil.

I seriously doubt that. It’s almost clear, not quite like water, but close. The base oil appears to be some type of bright stock. It seems to have pretty decent clinging properties… It might make a pretty good bar/chain oil.

I guess I’ll send a sample off to Blackstone to see was in it. I’m just really curious…


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
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I can buy Shell T-1 CF/CF-2/SN for $10 a pail more than the mystery Wal-Mart offering. For all we know, it could be T-1.

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https://www.api.org/products-and-se...ssifications/oil-categories#tab-gasoline
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“CAUTION: Not suitable for use in most gasoline-powered automotive engines built after 1993. May not provide adequate protection against build-up of engine sludge, oxidation, or wear.”

OK, anything 1993 or older


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
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Most in the first sentence and may in the second. Shell T-1 is API SN.. It may be good enough in most vehicles weather permitting.
What was the purpose of this thread if you already knew the answer?

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Originally Posted by userfriendly

What was the purpose of this thread if you already knew the answer?


MY ENTIRE PURPOSE:
"Why is this oil different enough ... that it doesn't meet API "SN"


I mean - - It is API "SG" .....
BUT WHY???

What is missing from it??

Will it kill an engine that requires SH? If so, Why? if not, Why? What additives does it have? What additives are missing?


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
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Maybe it meets SN and maybe it doesn't. Only your hairdresser knows for sure.

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Originally Posted by Linctex
What is missing from it??


More likely what is not missing - it has too much of something to meet SN.


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