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Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX #5462592 06/25/20 04:28 PM
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This was my fill for about half of winter - Oil was the 6 qt box of Havoline ProDS 5w30. I normally let it idle to get warm on the colder days (I know....). Im thinking fuel dilution would be slightly less without that maybe. OLM was at 4%.

I added roughly .75 qt or so of Quaker State QSUD 5W30 at right around the 5000 mile mark. Single quarts of the Havoline are not sold locally and Im not paying 11+ tax for a single quart online. This was my third time using Havoline and before that I used whatever Dexos1 synthetic that was on sale at WalMart


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Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: jgm038] #5462708 06/25/20 06:25 PM
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Did the ProDS seem noisier than other oils? I have often seen this as a complain about this oil (specifically the 5w20 variant) but I don't think it has a material effect on protection.

Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: Reddy45] #5462845 06/25/20 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Reddy45
Did the ProDS seem noisier than other oils? I have often seen this as a complain about this oil (specifically the 5w20 variant) but I don't think it has a material effect on protection.


I used it in the Corolla and its wasn't any queiter or noisey than any of the other 6 different oils I've used in three other oils I've used before or after it.


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Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: jgm038] #5462850 06/25/20 09:26 PM
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I bought 10 or more 5qt jugs of Haviline ProDS 5w-30 when O’Reilly had it on clearance 3 years ago. It was the SN, Dexos 1 version, not the SN Plus Dexos1 gen 2 version. Either way I never noticed any weird engine noises with it. It felt like it was a pretty good oil, I would buy it again.

Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: buddylpal] #5462889 06/25/20 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by buddylpal
I bought 10 or more 5qt jugs of Haviline ProDS 5w-30 when O’Reilly had it on clearance 3 years ago. It was the SN, Dexos 1 version, not the SN Plus Dexos1 gen 2 version. Either way I never noticed any weird engine noises with it. It felt like it was a pretty good oil, I would buy it again.


Thanks. I got a few jugs during that same sale and I haven't used them yet but I think they'll work just fine.

Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: Reddy45] #5462944 06/26/20 12:05 AM
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Just like Mobil 1 was “noisy”?

NO.

Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: jgm038] #5462969 06/26/20 02:47 AM
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Ive owned the car since 8000 miles. Off the top if my head ive used:
Mobil 1 twice,
QSUD twice,
Castrol Syn once,
Valvoline syn once,
Pennzoil yellow bottle syn once,
and then the Havoline ProDS twice now.
I also got one free dealer oil change so whatever they used.

Honestly, between them all, I havent noticed any difference in noise.

Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: jgm038] #5462972 06/26/20 03:00 AM
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Havoline, Havoline Formula3, Havoline ProDS/Syn used to be one of my go to oils until the last batch(2018) where it was noisy in my Altima. I may try it again but, I am reluctant.


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Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: Char Baby] #5462999 06/26/20 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Char Baby
Havoline, Havoline Formula3, Havoline ProDS/Syn used to be one of my go to oils until the last batch(2018) where it was noisy in my Altima. I may try it again but, I am reluctant.



Huh... That's surprising to me CB...

You have the 2.5 L motor though right ??

My 3.5 L VQ motor runs very quiet on Havoline Pro DS 5w30.. and the other Havoline oils it runs very good on too.


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Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: jgm038] #5463013 06/26/20 06:04 AM
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Next winter, a 5k OCI limit for you on Havoline.
Do you promise to abide?....lol

Yep, kidding aside, you ran it a little too long and probably let your ride warmup too long in your driveway, during the cold winter.


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Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: bbhero] #5463078 06/26/20 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bbhero
Originally Posted by Char Baby
Havoline, Havoline Formula3, Havoline ProDS/Syn used to be one of my go to oils until the last batch(2018) where it was noisy in my Altima. I may try it again but, I am reluctant.



Huh... That's surprising to me CB...

You have the 2.5 L motor though right ??

My 3.5 L VQ motor runs very quiet on Havoline Pro DS 5w30.. and the other Havoline oils it runs very good on too.


As I mentioned, Havoline oils were once one of my go to oils. My engines always ran smooth & quiet.

At this one particular time, I also ran the same Havoline ProDS in my daughter's Mazda3 2.0L and it was fine in her engine. The Altima 2.5L was the loud one...IDKY! After 3-4 months, I changed back to QSUD and all was good again.

And it's not that I won't run HavProDS again however, the last batch did seem as though I had run some Mobil 1, which BTW, made every engine I ever ran M1 in, louder(more audible). I haven't used M1 either but, I have used Mobil Super Syn with great success...IDKY!

QSUD is always quiet in any engine I put it in and it's readily available and cheap. However, there was a thread or two last week about QSUD being loud in a members engine in which, everyone thought that was weird including myself.

I don't see Havoline much in my area any longer. However, I have on occasion seen the 6 qt boxes at Walmart, just not often enough.

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You only get 6700 miles out of full synthetic oil?


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Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: Char Baby] #5463476 06/26/20 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Char Baby
Havoline, Havoline Formula3, Havoline ProDS/Syn used to be one of my go to oils until the last batch(2018) where it was noisy in my Altima. I may try it again but, I am reluctant.


You aren't the only one who noticed this problem! It's like there was a bad batch or something.

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Originally Posted by rossn2
You only get 6700 miles out of full synthetic oil?

I hope your DI Hyundai isn't seeing 6.7K? Most of us Hyundai owners fall under Severe Service in our Owners Manual. That's 3.75k OCI.

I'll be rounding out my OCI number to 4. Easier to remember. With our Kia, it's not TDGI, nor officially GDI. So we are running 5k OCIs.


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Re: Havoline ProDS 5w30 - 2013 Cadillac ATS w/ 3.6L LFX [Re: rossn2] #5463710 06/26/20 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rossn2
You only get 6700 miles out of full synthetic oil?


On my DS Pro I went 7154 miles the TBn indicated It would have easily gone 7500 miles.


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