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New apartments shoddy build quality #5461568 06/24/20 03:22 PM
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My nephew moved into a newly-built apartment downtown. It's a really nice building and he's excited to be the first one living in it. We helped him move in and the first night there we encountered problems. First, there were plumbing issues. The main floor Kohler toilet wouldn't flush correctly and the shower backed up. Luckily, the maintenance guys came pretty quickly and after a while of tinkering, they pulled out plastic pieces and other construction garbage from the shower drain. They had to replace something in the toilet tank but it was fine after. And again, this is a BRAND NEW place. My nephew later said he met his new neighbors and they also experienced plumbing issues.

Next up, electrical issues. The kitchen lights flicker and a row of under-cabinet lights don't work. An electrician is scheduled to come check those things out.

There are also signs of poor fit & finish. The floors shake pretty good when the washer/dryer are running, recessed lights have gaps and aren't fully flush with the ceiling, there are marks & dings on the wall from careless construction workers, the main door deadbolt requires some shimmying to lock right and etc. As a renter, he can just call up the maintenance crew whenever something gets messed up but it's obvious this place was hastily slapped up.

Has anyone else noticed shoddy build quality in new construction?


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Re: New apartments shoddy build quality [Re: mclasser] #5461575 06/24/20 03:30 PM
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I live in Florida in an apartment building that is basically new, built in 2013.

I have moved into a different apartment every year for the last 9 years, from Ohio to Florida. Some ranging from literally brand new and I'm the first to live in it to 50+ years old. Sometimes the older they are, the better they are since everything is built so quickly these days. Overall, just a lessened sense of pride in doing a job well done. I've had to do work on every place I've lived because some of the stuff I just can't stand to look at.

It's not just apartment either. My in-laws live in a new division here in Florida. They are still building homes around theirs and just finished up 1 right next to them and 3 right across the street. I've walked all of them throughout the building phases and good lord some of the shoddy work I saw. If only the people buying them new what was hiding behind that cheap, fresh paint and gypsum. Luckily it was a different builder than the one who built my in-laws place.

To put it simply, craftsmanship is dead.

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Re: New apartments shoddy build quality [Re: mclasser] #5461578 06/24/20 03:30 PM
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The lowest cost bidder and the lowest skilled workers, the lowest cost parts etc...


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Re: New apartments shoddy build quality [Re: mclasser] #5461580 06/24/20 03:33 PM
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They try to get these places done as fast as they can so they can get that income coming in.

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Originally Posted by CT8
The lowest cost bidder and the lowest skilled workers, the lowest cost parts ert..


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Re: New apartments shoddy build quality [Re: mclasser] #5461585 06/24/20 03:41 PM
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Yep. Quick contractor-grade parts and labor.


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Re: New apartments shoddy build quality [Re: Throt] #5461586 06/24/20 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Throt
I have moved into a different apartment every year for the last 9 years.

Why? Do you change cities a lot for work? I can’t think of one thing I like less than moving. Unless of course you are a minimalist and can get everything in a car in one trip.


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Re: New apartments shoddy build quality [Re: mclasser] #5461588 06/24/20 03:44 PM
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Just wait until his neighbors move in and he can hear everything through paper thin walls.

What kind of heating system is in the apt? For his sake, let's hope it's gas heat.


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Re: New apartments shoddy build quality [Re: mclasser] #5461589 06/24/20 03:45 PM
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Somebody didn't do a punch list before accepting the building.

Re: New apartments shoddy build quality [Re: RhondaHonda] #5461592 06/24/20 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RhondaHonda
Originally Posted by Throt

I have moved into a different apartment every year for the last 9 years.


Why? Do you change cities a lot for work? I can’t think of one thing I like less than moving. Unless of course you are a minimalist and can get everything in a car in one trip.


Just happened that way. Moved every year of college, when college was over the now-wife and I moved each year to nicer places and better areas as our income rose and the dogs multiplied. Then we moved to Florida and have done the same thing again. We're actually going to re-sign our current lease for the first time ever. Why? Because I'm getting too old and have accumulated too many tools to keep moving. laugh

Plus, with this COVID uncertainty, moving just isn't high on the list.

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Re: New apartments shoddy build quality [Re: Throt] #5461598 06/24/20 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Throt
Originally Posted by RhondaHonda
Originally Posted by Throt

I have moved into a different apartment every year for the last 9 years.


Why? Do you change cities a lot for work? I can’t think of one thing I like less than moving. Unless of course you are a minimalist and can get everything in a car in one trip.


Just happened that way. Moved every year of college, when college was over the now-wife and I moved each year to nicer places and better areas as our income rose and the dogs multiplied. Then we moved to Florida and have done the same thing again. We're actually going to re-sign our current lease for the first time ever. Why? Because I'm getting too old and have accumulated too many tools to keep moving. laugh

Plus, with this COVID uncertainty, moving just isn't high on the list.

Have considered buying a house ?

I agree shoddy workmanship.



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One of my nieces bought a new house last year. Day after they moved in one of the toilets was clogged. Plumber came out, removed the toilet and pulled out a bunch of plastic sheeting which was obviously construction trash. There are some stupid people on this planet.


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Originally Posted by PowerSurge
One of my nieces bought a new house last year. Day after they moved in one of the toilets was clogged. Plumber came out, removed the toilet and pulled out a bunch of plastic sheeting which was obviously construction trash. There are some stupid people on this planet.

I wouldn't call them stupid. More like untrained and possibly (more than likely) underpaid as well.
I live in downtown Vancouver BC. Here, there's a new tower being erected daily (with older buildings being demolished at a similar rate).
The construction workers I see on the streets appear to be nothing more than kids...early 20s who have no real experience or commitment to their profession.
They only see their job as a way of earning a living until they can find something better to do. Nothing more, nothing less.

After taking one look at them, they do not look like someone I'd want working on anything I value.
Especially not with the going rate for a 500sq foot condo in my area ($1m+)


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Re: New apartments shoddy build quality [Re: mclasser] #5461622 06/24/20 04:37 PM
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Its very frustrating -- things are fast and cheap but yet -- there not giving you a break on your rent. That paired with your blood/sweat and tears to pay your bills.


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Just be thankful he didn't buy it as a condo and I'm sure the cheap shoddy construction is why there's almost no new rentals being built in Ontario at least, they are all condos. Who wants to be a landlord with a PITA building when you can cash out and leave the condo owners association to deal with it.


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