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Death of Conventional #5460202 06/22/20 07:41 PM
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I know we talk about this every time a new standard comes along but with the difference in cost down to $0.40 a qt on some brands, how much longer does it make sense to make conventional for mainstream applications?


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Don't worry about the base oil, just the finished product.

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It really doesn’t for me. I haven’t ran conventional in any of my vehicles or ones that I service in years. Conventional used to be a good value compared against synthetic. Not anymore. I know in 2000-2001 I was paying about .69/quart for Shell conventional as compared to $24~ for a 5 quart jug of M1.


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Re: Death of Conventional [Re: Gene K] #5460227 06/22/20 08:06 PM
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I remember back in the day when dino's like pyb were getting better uoa's than synths. Now it's the other way around. Everyone talks about pao,etc,but the newest synths imo are better than ever.


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Re: Death of Conventional [Re: aquariuscsm] #5460238 06/22/20 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
I remember back in the day when dino's like pyb were getting better uoa's than synths. Now it's the other way around. Everyone talks about pao,etc,but the newest synths imo are better than ever.


I still like PYB but with QSUD the same price I just don't see it being cost effective.


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Re: Death of Conventional [Re: Gene K] #5460250 06/22/20 08:23 PM
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Only if you're getting an oil change, and that's not really conventional anyway.


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Re: Death of Conventional [Re: Gene K] #5460260 06/22/20 08:32 PM
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If the oil companies are making a profit from selling conventional oil, whatever that actually is now, then it makes perfect sense to keep producing it.


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Re: Death of Conventional [Re: Gene K] #5460270 06/22/20 08:46 PM
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I always used convetional oils throughout the 90s and most of the 2000s. Never had a lubrication related problem.

Then the auto part stores had synthetic oil on sale for the same price as conventional. I'll do that. Then I viewed the results , first hand, of the synthetics ability to keep an engine clean even if it wasn't changed on perfect 5,000 mile schedules. It was a "buffer" for me, when life got in the way and "I'll do it next weekend" crept in.

I could easily do the same thing with a conventional (really a semi-synthetic) oil of today. But I can still can find synthetic oil on sale for the same price as conventional, so why go back. Guess the sales marketing worked after all these years.

For the normal consumer, they want the cheapest quick lube change at the lowest price point most of the time. At least the oils being used are better now, no matter what they use (oils meeting specification implied).


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Conventional is headed for the automotive trash heap to join with the manual choke and headlight dimmer floor switch.


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Originally Posted by PimTac
Conventional is headed for the automotive trash heap to join with the manual choke and headlight dimmer floor switch.


And foot operated parking brake.


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For me the difference between conventional and synthetic is $1.00 for a 5 quart jug (with no sales or rebates). It's a no brainer.


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Re: Death of Conventional [Re: skyactiv] #5460305 06/22/20 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by skyactiv
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Conventional is headed for the automotive trash heap to join with the manual choke and headlight dimmer floor switch.


And foot operated parking brake.


And the pull out knob on the dash to turn the headlights on.


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It'll have its place in the boutique brands. The higher pressure-viscosity coefficient of conventional oils makes it excellent for nitrous powered drag racing engines.


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Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
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Conventional is headed for the automotive trash heap to join with the manual choke and headlight dimmer floor switch.


And foot operated parking brake.


And the pull out knob on the dash to turn the headlights on.


I'm still [censored] that i can't get knobs on the radio.


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I'm still [censored] that i can't get knobs on the radio.


Same here. I still prefer analog knobs, buttons,and switches.


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