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Something better for less money? #5458150 06/19/20 10:51 PM
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Hi guys! This site is amazing, and full of great info so I thought I would kindly ask for some opinions. I’m a motorcycle nut, and as such, I have been using Motul products for years in my Bikes, and A.T.V’s, and even though it’s a bit pricey, my machines are worth it. I have been totally satisfied. That said, I have been using it in my cars for the last few years. I have two Suzuki S.U.V’s(2012 Grand Vitara with a 2.4L (110,000 miles) and, a 2003 XL-7 with a 2.7L V-6(160,000 miles. I also have a 05’ F-150 with a 4.6L V-8 (165,000 miles). I have been using Motul’s “8100 X-Clean 5-W30 in the Suzuki’s, and 5-W20 in my pick up. I obviously have had good results as they all run great with the high mileage that they have, but could I be spending more than I need to, or is there something better for equal money? Any advice would be much appreciated!

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Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Moonboy188] #5458154 06/19/20 11:00 PM
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Hey! That looks like kiowa and rock springs area! Difrancisco too.

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Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Chris142] #5458165 06/19/20 11:34 PM
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Wow man! Your right! Kiowa & Ranchero. Pretty good for the limited background.

Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Moonboy188] #5458166 06/19/20 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonboy188
Wow man! Your right! Kiowa & Ranchero. Pretty good for the limited background.

Lived right there since 1974


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Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Chris142] #5458173 06/19/20 11:45 PM
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That’s amazing. I have been riding out at stoddard wells since probably the mid eighties, and my wife and I have dreamed of getting out of the city, and moving to the high desert for years. So in March we sold our house in Glendora, and made it happen. I can’t say there hasn’t been some things to get used to, but we knew we would run into that coming in. We love it here!!!!

Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Moonboy188] #5458176 06/20/20 12:03 AM
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Moonboy, imho, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Stick with the motul.

Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Moonboy188] #5458179 06/20/20 12:11 AM
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Or those guys I am thinking most off the shelf oils at Walmart would be more than fine for them.

For Example, Quaker State Full Synthetic is currently 19.97/5qt jug, and I my cars seem pretty happy with them....


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Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Chris142] #5458219 06/20/20 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris142
Hey! That looks like kiowa and rock springs area! Difrancisco too.

Yep, looks like a great place to start a large vegetable garden.....lol

Those vehicles shown look like they're in great shape. Kudos to OP.... thumbsup


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Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Moonboy188] #5458275 06/20/20 07:22 AM
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Why pay that money on old high mile cars. Go to Walmart and buy any oil between $18 to $27 for 5 qts and you will have better oil then is ever needed X2. You were just wasting your money with Motul. Now if you had a high stressed turbo motor and you thrashed on it, then motul quality oil might be justifiable. With the exception of my Kona I thrash, all my other family's cars get on sale $21 Shell Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 (Towing) and the Honda gets Walmart full synthetic high mileage or Pennzoil full synthetic high mileage. The Kona gets Mobil 1 5w-30 ESP or now testing Redline 5w-30 Euro.


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Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Moonboy188] #5458289 06/20/20 07:40 AM
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Use whatever works. Shell is just a synthesized paraffin, Higher Motul series are majority PAO.

I don't find PAO to be the be all end all, but its a good starting point.

The best "cheap" oil I've tried that gives EVERYTHING you want, which is:

1) highest fuel MPG

2) power

3) lugging torque

was the new Valvoline Advanced ( not modern engine )

I was never a big Valvoline fan in the past but this stuff is the cat's meow.

Runs better than any 5 dollar a litre 5W30 out there that I have tried.

And Ive tried most of them in multiple platforms!

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Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Moonboy188] #5458334 06/20/20 08:44 AM
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I've always been a sucker for moly. High moly oils always seem to run so smooth.


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Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5458345 06/20/20 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en

Yep, looks like a great place to start a large vegetable garden.....lol:!

Melons do good and the area was known for potatoes and alfalfa before the houses got built. Our biggest problem is the bunnies and squirrels eat every thing before it has a chance to grow. Our zuccinni are doing well with my make shift fence around it.

The brown mountain in his top pic ( car) has an earthquake fault running along the base of it. A finger of the San Andreas.

Lots of mining here in the past. Still lits of cement quaries,limestone,dolomite etc.

Also many abandoned gold mines up in those hills and gold can still be found. It was a great place to grow up in the 70's and 80's for a kid that liked to go dirtbike riding and exploring.


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Re: Something better for less money? [Re: Moonboy188] #5458346 06/20/20 08:58 AM
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kinda off topic moonboy188, but you have a couple of nice suzuki suv. it is too bad that suzuki cars failed in north america, they are well regarded elsewhere in the world.


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Re: Something better for less money? [Re: hemitruck] #5458398 06/20/20 10:19 AM
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Thanks brother! That’s been my mindset so far.

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Thanks, I try to take care of my stuff. cheers

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