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QSUD Problems? #5456752 06/18/20 09:51 AM
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Many here like Quaker State Ultimate Durability. I have used it myself. However, it's hard to have confidence in QSUD after reading statements such as the following:
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
My GM-magnetic oil pan bolt was loaded with metal shavings after using the QSUD 5W-20 in a 4.3 engine calling for 5w-30. Only time this ever occurred using three different 5W-20 synthetics I inherited from a elderly neighbor that can't drive anymore. Needless to say, I won't buy QSUD again.
Then, regarding a UOA:
Originally Posted by Turk
People tout QSUD here and I never understood why. More proof.
Do QSUD haters outnumber QSUD lovers here? Should I avoid QSUD, use it with reservation, or use it with confidence?

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The answer of course is that when using a properly rated oil for the application a UOA is about the engine and not about the oil.

If a magnetic drain plug was "loaded with metal shavings" due to one brand, then that's a problem with the engine not the oil despite the grade difference (assuming the incident even happened in the first place). The user you quote was banned for a period of time due to similar silly statements.

Is this thread only intended to spark controversy on the board? That's my guess.

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Everyone has their experience, opinions and leanings. In my case, i've seen nothing but stellar UOA and heard vastly more positives than otherwise.


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Re: QSUD Problems? [Re: kschachn] #5456770 06/18/20 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
The answer of course is that when using a properly rated oil for the application a UOA is about the engine and not about the oil.

If a magnetic drain plug was "loaded with metal shavings" due to one brand, then that's a problem with the engine not the oil (despite the grade difference). The user you quote was banned for a period of time due to such silly statements.

Is this thread only intended to spark controversy on the board? That's my guess.

X2.


You know what they say, cross threads are tighter than locktite!
Re: QSUD Problems? [Re: viscous] #5456775 06/18/20 10:15 AM
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If no oil deals are going on it would be in my top three at its normal price of under twenty dollars at Walmart. The other ones being ST syn and Magnatec depending on my mood that morning.

Re: QSUD Problems? [Re: viscous] #5456777 06/18/20 10:17 AM
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Just got back from towing my 5,000 pound travel trailer on a 300 mile round trip. The tow vehicle is a 2018 (5.3) Silverado running 0/20w QSUD. The trip included going up a 7,000 foot pass (common in Utah) and the motor didn't blow up............

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Re: QSUD Problems? [Re: viscous] #5456778 06/18/20 10:17 AM
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QSUD is one of my fave oils.


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Re: QSUD Problems? [Re: viscous] #5456784 06/18/20 10:21 AM
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QSUD is a great oil for a Grp 3. After Redline,its M1 or Sopus in a tie. Only rocking M1 because of the 0w30. Out of all the budget oils, QSUD is #1 .


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Re: QSUD Problems? [Re: kschachn] #5456786 06/18/20 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Is this thread only intended to spark controversy on the board? That's my guess.
No, I bought a small quantity of QSUD for OPE when it was on sale (store rebate). I'm reading about it before I decide whether to purchase it for a vehicle next time it's cheap. I've seen it for $2 per quart after store rebate.

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Do you really think that an API licensed oil is going to cause engine damage? That's the question you have to ask yourself, viscous.

Well do you?


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Re: QSUD Problems? [Re: kschachn] #5456825 06/18/20 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Do you really think that an API licensed oil is going to cause engine damage? That's the question you have to ask yourself, viscous.

Well do you?
Not damage, per se, but different oils yield different UOAs, some with high wear metals, etc.

Re: QSUD Problems? [Re: viscous] #5456839 06/18/20 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by viscous
Many here like Quaker State Ultimate Durability. I have used it myself. However, it's hard to have confidence in QSUD after reading statements such as the following:
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
My GM-magnetic oil pan bolt was loaded with metal shavings after using the QSUD 5W-20 in a 4.3 engine calling for 5w-30. Only time this ever occurred using three different 5W-20 synthetics I inherited from a elderly neighbor that can't drive anymore. Needless to say, I won't buy QSUD again.
Then, regarding a UOA:
Originally Posted by Turk
People tout QSUD here and I never understood why. More proof.
Do QSUD haters outnumber QSUD lovers here? Should I avoid QSUD, use it with reservation, or use it with confidence?

That instance I cited in quote above was probably 12-13 years ago.
How many formula changes has there been since?...... probably a handful.

I have regained confidence in the brand again.


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Great oil for a good price!!! Use with confidence!!! wink


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It must be the wax additives.


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