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Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0W-20 meets MB 229.71 (6/9/2020) #5452262 06/12/20 03:45 PM
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But not VW/Audi 508.00. Maybe 508 is a tougher approval?

https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.71_en.html


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Re: Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0W-20 meets MB 229.71 (6/9/2020) [Re: wemay] #5452266 06/12/20 03:53 PM
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They probably just haven't seen fit to pay VW for the licensing yet.


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Originally Posted by littlehulkster
They probably just haven't seen fit to pay VW for the licensing yet.


Or, it's something else small, like it doesn't contain the vanadium VW wants as a tracer.

Re: Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0W-20 meets MB 229.71 (6/9/2020) [Re: Jimmy_Russells] #5452296 06/12/20 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
Originally Posted by littlehulkster
They probably just haven't seen fit to pay VW for the licensing yet.


Or, it's something else small, like it doesn't contain the vanadium VW wants as a tracer.



Or they already have their 508 oil, sell it for a high price, and don't want to cannibalize sales.

Hard to say, but I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to make an oil that meets all the German 0w20 specs, as they're very similar.


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Re: Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0W-20 meets MB 229.71 (6/9/2020) [Re: littlehulkster] #5452402 06/12/20 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by littlehulkster
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
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They probably just haven't seen fit to pay VW for the licensing yet.


Or, it's something else small, like it doesn't contain the vanadium VW wants as a tracer.



Or they already have their 508 oil, sell it for a high price, and don't want to cannibalize sales.

Hard to say, but I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to make an oil that meets all the German 0w20 specs, as they're very similar.


My belief as well.


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Re: Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0W-20 meets MB 229.71 (6/9/2020) [Re: wemay] #5452484 06/12/20 11:07 PM
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Havoline ProDS made the list!

Wow!


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Re: Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0W-20 meets MB 229.71 (6/9/2020) [Re: littlehulkster] #5452495 06/12/20 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by littlehulkster
They probably just haven't seen fit to pay VW for the licensing yet.

VW approval is around $4,000.


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Re: Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0W-20 meets MB 229.71 (6/9/2020) [Re: edyvw] #5452509 06/13/20 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by littlehulkster
They probably just haven't seen fit to pay VW for the licensing yet.

VW approval is around $4,000.

That sounds really cheap to me. I thought it would be way more.


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Re: Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0W-20 meets MB 229.71 (6/9/2020) [Re: wemay] #5452511 06/13/20 12:13 AM
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...yet... Castrol USA does not list MB approval on their EP 0w20

https://www.castrol.com/en_us/unite...d/castrol-edge-extended-performance.html

So, it's probably not the same oil as the Castrol UK product.


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Re: Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0W-20 meets MB 229.71 (6/9/2020) [Re: wemay] #5452632 06/13/20 07:59 AM
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I think VW 508 is mid saps? Is this? Appears to be low saps. I don't know if that would push it off VW 508 or not.

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Re: Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0W-20 meets MB 229.71 (6/9/2020) [Re: KCJeep] #5452946 06/13/20 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KCJeep
I think VW 508 is mid saps? Is this? Appears to be low saps. I don't know if that would push it off VW 508 or not.

By ACEA standards, it's mid-SAPS.


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Re: Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0W-20 meets MB 229.71 (6/9/2020) [Re: wemay] #5453157 06/13/20 07:35 PM
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But how can a $22.38 a 5 qt jug "Walmart oil" can have a majestic Euro-OEM approval? wink


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Originally Posted by Gokhan
But how can a $22.38 a 5 qt jug "Walmart oil" can have a majestic Euro-OEM approval? wink


For the same reason a bunch of other ones already do?

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Originally Posted by Gokhan
But how can a $22.38 a 5 qt jug "Walmart oil" can have a majestic Euro-OEM approval? wink


Valvoline European Vehicle isn't much more and it's got a bunch of top level euro specs, too.

It's not that these specs are somehow hard to meet for an experienced oil company, it's just a matter of if it's worth the cost for them to do so.


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Originally Posted by littlehulkster
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But how can a $22.38 a 5 qt jug "Walmart oil" can have a majestic Euro-OEM approval? wink
Valvoline European Vehicle isn't much more and it's got a bunch of top level euro specs, too.

It's not that these specs are somehow hard to meet for an experienced oil company, it's just a matter of if it's worth the cost for them to do so.

I know. I was being sarcastic.

It's actually a lot cheaper to make a Euro-OEM-approved oil with a generic additive pack already approved through an additive company, which costs almost nothing because doesn't require actual engine tests, than making any in-house blend of any kind of approval, which costs a fortune, as it requires actual engine tests.

Someone from Mobil 1 was telling a BITOG member how "sad" these generic additive packages were and their in-house blends were vastly superior. I don't necessarily believe that this is true, but it's something to consider.


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