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Easier starting PW with new plug #5452232 06/12/20 03:10 PM
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My power washer is about 8 years old and It has always been hard starting. So yesterday I replaced the Champion plug(it looked fine and the gap was correct) with a NGK plug and the machine is way easier starting than it has been since new.

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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: tig1] #5452258 06/12/20 03:38 PM
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Good news tig! I always replace Champion with NGK, always.


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: tig1] #5452305 06/12/20 05:26 PM
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That is interesting! I have always used the brand that originally came with the equipment (Champ in Briggs and Hitachi, NGK in Honda). I need to replace the Hitachi plug soon so will try an NGK next round.


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: tig1] #5452314 06/12/20 05:43 PM
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I would bet a new Champion plug would have accomplished the same thing.


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: Lubener] #5452330 06/12/20 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lubener
I would bet a new Champion plug would have accomplished the same thing.

As I said, this PW has been hard to start from the beginning.


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: GSCJR] #5452332 06/12/20 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GSCJR
Good news tig! I always replace Champion with NGK, always.

I have been using NGK plugs in my Fords for some time with very good results. I will soon put NGKs in my generator and my B&S riding mower.


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: tig1] #5452345 06/12/20 06:53 PM
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My B&S starts very easy and I always use the same Champion model # . Ed


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: tig1] #5452368 06/12/20 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tig1
Originally Posted by GSCJR
Good news tig! I always replace Champion with NGK, always.

I have been using NGK plugs in my Fords for some time with very good results. I will soon put NGKs in my generator and my B&S riding mower.

I always use Motorcraft in Fords but all my OPE get NGK.


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: tig1] #5452482 06/12/20 11:04 PM
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I always hated Champion plugs until I started messing around with Big Block (383/400/413/440) Mopar engines around 1986-87 or so....

For reasons I could never explain...
those things always ran best with Champion... Never AC. Autolite, or Motorcraft (I never tried Japanese plugs in them)


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: tig1] #5452581 06/13/20 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tig1
Originally Posted by Lubener
I would bet a new Champion plug would have accomplished the same thing.

As I said, this PW has been hard to start from the beginning.


One would think, but the proof is in the pudding. I’ve never heard of an issue with Champ plugs though. Very interesting.


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: tig1] #5452585 06/13/20 06:40 AM
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I prefer NGK plugs as I have had excellent longevity from them.


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: tig1] #5452588 06/13/20 06:43 AM
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I've been switching my OPE to NGK Iridium plugs. I've noticed everything from a huge difference on the machines supplied with Torch brand plugs to no difference at all on those that had standard copper NGK plugs to begin with.


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: Astro_Guy] #5452717 06/13/20 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Astro_Guy
I've been switching my OPE to NGK Iridium plugs. I've noticed everything from a huge difference on the machines supplied with Torch brand plugs to no difference at all on those that had standard copper NGK plugs to begin with.

The NGK plugs I put in my 2007 Fusion were iridium, but the one in my PW is a standard NGK.


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: tig1] #5453298 06/13/20 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tig1
Originally Posted by Astro_Guy
I've been switching my OPE to NGK Iridium plugs. I've noticed everything from a huge difference on the machines supplied with Torch brand plugs to no difference at all on those that had standard copper NGK plugs to begin with.
The NGK plugs I put in my 2007 Fusion were iridium, but the one in my PW is a standard NGK.
I figure the price difference to be irrelevant if I don't have to change plugs for 10 years or more. I do confess to have run a standard NGK copper plug in a Honda GCV-160 powered mower for upwards of 500 hours without an issue. That's a meaningless sample of one, so let's not debate it.


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Re: Easier starting PW with new plug [Re: tig1] #5455834 06/17/20 07:07 AM
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Those low-priced two-stroke gas trimmers are always a PITA to start. Don't even bother with the supplied plug (be it Torch or Champion). Throw it in the trash and get a NGK. Guaranteed to start after 2 or 3 pulls (which is pretty fabulous on those trimmers).


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