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Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 #5447405 06/06/20 05:52 AM
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With these lower viscosity oils such as 0w16 I am considering using Motul in my new 2020 Camry. I have been a loyal Mobil 1 user for many years and may still stick with the 0w16 from them, however, with this new ride is Motul a consideration? I will be sticking with the 10,000 mile intervals. I am also trying to decide when I should drain this factory fill?

https://www.motul.com/us/en-US/products/hybrid-0w16

https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-0w16/

I was also thinking about 0w20, but see no real benefit at this point in using it. Thoughts?


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Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5447407 06/06/20 05:55 AM
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Does the Motul meet the manufacturer recommendations?

Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5447413 06/06/20 06:16 AM
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Oil grade: API SN/RC multigrade engine oil

It also has a 4.8 quart capacity. Motul comes in a gallon size and Mobil 1 in 5 quart.


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Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5447437 06/06/20 07:11 AM
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For convenience (one jug vs. one jug and an extra quart) as well as cost, I would go with the MOBIL 1


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02 Volvo V70 T5 0W30 Edge
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05 MB S600 0W40 M1
16 Tundra 1794 5W30 Pennzoil Ultra
Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5447440 06/06/20 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Amkeer
With these lower viscosity oils such as 0w16 I am considering using Motul in my new 2020 Camry. I have been a loyal Mobil 1 user for many years and may still stick with the 0w16 from them, however, with this new ride is Motul a consideration? I will be sticking with the 10,000 mile intervals. I am also trying to decide when I should drain this factory fill?

https://www.motul.com/us/en-US/products/hybrid-0w16

https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-0w16/

I was also thinking about 0w20, but see no real benefit at this point in using it. Thoughts?


Your owners manual gives you a 0w16 or 0w20 option for the entire warranty period? Or does it say you can 0w20 for "one time use' - then requires 0w16 again?


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Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5447442 06/06/20 07:16 AM
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There may not be much, if any, real world difference. I'd choose the M1, just due to the fact that it's available anywhere, anytime. Some Motul products are simply exact copies of Mobil 1 products....

I'd also suggest you change it more frequently than 10K miles.


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Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5447446 06/06/20 07:18 AM
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From the OM:

■ Engine oil selection
 2.5 L 4-cylinder (A25A-FKS) engine
“Toyota Genuine Motor Oil” is used in your Toyota vehicle. Use Toyota approved “Toyota Genuine Motor Oil” or equivalent to sat- isfy the following grade and viscosity.
Oil grade: API SN/RC multigrade engine oil
Recommended viscosity: SAE 0W-16
SAE 0W-16 is the best choice for good fuel economy and good start- ing in cold weather.
If SAE 0W-16 is not available, SAE 0W-20 oil may be used. However, it must be replaced with SAE 0W- 16 at the next oil change.
Oil viscosity (0W-16 is explained here as an example):
• The 0W in 0W-16 indicates the characteristic of the oil which allows cold startability. Oils with a lower value before the W allow for easier starting of the engine in cold weather.
• The 16 in 0W-16 indicates the viscosity characteristic of the oil when the oil is at high temperature. An oil with a higher viscosity (one with a higher value) may be better suited if the vehicle is operated at high speeds, or under extreme load conditions.

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32 Packard 15W40
01 Volvo V70 T5 0W30 AMSOIL SS
02 Volvo V70 T5 0W30 Edge
02 Volvo V70 XC 0W40 Edge
05 MB S600 0W40 M1
16 Tundra 1794 5W30 Pennzoil Ultra
Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5447462 06/06/20 07:40 AM
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I have Motul VW 508 (a real majority) PAO synthetic in my Jetta, it's a good oil, but its too thin and the engine ran bad on it and started drinking it. When it was down a half liter I put some Mobil 1 0W40 FS in there ( I had purchased it for an oil change on my Generac 5000) Previously teh dealer has incorrectly put 5W40 in it and that was too thick!

Well the engine responded surprisingly to the small increase in viscosity and has run well since and has not used oil at a high rate.

This is only a 1.4 L Turbo DI motor with a favourable aspect ratio to the piston, but long stroke.

IN your Toyota 2.5 I would expect things to be much worse as this is basically 1/2 of a 302 V8.

I would use Mobil 1 AP 0W20 and if it noisy after break in - supplement it with the M1 0W40.

This is the way of the world and the way of a good mechanic and engine tuner.


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Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5447477 06/06/20 08:00 AM
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"The 0W in 0W-16 indicates the characteristic of the oil which allows cold startability. Oils with a lower value before the W allow for easier starting of the engine in cold weather."

Its not cold weather now and wont be for awhile.

"The 16 in 0W-16 indicates the viscosity characteristic of the oil when the oil is at high temperature. An oil with a higher viscosity (one with a higher value) may be better suited if the vehicle is operated at high speeds, or under extreme load conditions."

My brain says 20 or 30..

So my translation from Toyota is.. 5w20/5w30 in summer/fall 0w20/0w30 in winter. and 0w40 sounds like a good year round oil.

I doubt i would ever buy 0w16 to keep the CAFE folks happy.

Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5447481 06/06/20 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Amkeer
I am also trying to decide when I should drain this factory fill?

What does your owner's manual say?


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Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5447494 06/06/20 08:28 AM
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Despite all the marketing claims , what does oil do? It keeps the parts separated bottom line , then it has additives to do certain things prevent wear when the oil film is not thick enough on certain parts and to make the oil last longer in the engine. If you buy oil from a well known major company with the proper ratings will allow long engine life I have seem more Toyota Camrys with 350,000+ miles running fine running quick change oils and filters.


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Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5447748 06/06/20 02:33 PM
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M1 >> Motul.
All day.


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Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: CT8] #5448194 06/07/20 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CT8
Despite all the marketing claims , what does oil do? It keeps the parts separated bottom line , then it has additives to do certain things prevent wear when the oil film is not thick enough on certain parts and to make the oil last longer in the engine. If you buy oil from a well known major company with the proper ratings will allow long engine life I have seem more Toyota Camrys with 350,000+ miles running fine running quick change oils and filters.

And they are running a 30 grade.


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Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Direct_Rejection] #5448198 06/07/20 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Direct_Rejection
M1 >> Motul.
All day.


It depend if you want a real synthetic oil.

Many Mobil grades are not.

Not saying that make a 8100 series Motul the "cat's meow".

Just that you get what you are paying for - or at least what the label says you bought.

You don't get that in the USA. Big Corporate Lies. NA they are all to blame - and the un-eductaed consumer.


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Re: Mobil 1 versus Motul for a 2020 Camry 0w16 [Re: Amkeer] #5448219 06/07/20 09:37 AM
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Yep, I'd choose Motul over Mobil-1 Vanilla also.
The only Mobil-1s that interest me are the new Mobil-1 EP and ESP.


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