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Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? #5445666 06/03/20 07:28 PM
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Anyone know/have data/info/analysis on the bulk Castrol 5W40 that VW/Audi dealers use? What would this oil equate to off-the shelf?

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2018 VW Atlas SEL 4Motion 3.6 - Dealer Castrol 5W40 VW filter
2018 VW GSW S 4Motion 1.8 DSG Unitronic St2 IS20 - LiquiMoly Molygen 5W40 Mann filter
2013 Ford Focus SE HB 5-spd 2.0 - MC 5W20 MC filter
Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: TiGeo] #5445678 06/03/20 07:41 PM
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Ask the dealer.


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Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: TiGeo] #5445679 06/03/20 07:43 PM
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Which Audi and VW approvals does this oil have? It would equate to another oil with the same approval.


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Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: TiGeo] #5445684 06/03/20 07:45 PM
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I'm looking for the virgin TBN - I've emailed Castrol. It's likely Edge 5W40 that you can get at Walmart etc. I have several UOAs for my Atlas with dealer fills and like to see what the starting viscosity/TBN are to compare the UOA to.


2018 VW Atlas SEL 4Motion 3.6 - Dealer Castrol 5W40 VW filter
2018 VW GSW S 4Motion 1.8 DSG Unitronic St2 IS20 - LiquiMoly Molygen 5W40 Mann filter
2013 Ford Focus SE HB 5-spd 2.0 - MC 5W20 MC filter
Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: TiGeo] #5445733 06/03/20 08:43 PM
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I have a recently posted UOA in the section but not a VOA, dealer Castrol 5w40. I don't know the starting TBN but the residual TBN after 9,500 miles was 3.5 so it must be pretty good. Walmart's Edge 5w40 now has the Titanium additive the dealer stuff does not. I have on my home computer downloaded several other recent UOAs of OE 5w40 and they all looked good as well.

Starting viscosity I think is about 14.1 @100.


2018 VW Passat GT VR6 - 30k - Castrol Edge Euro Ti 5w40 - VW filter
2012 KIA Sedona 108k - Valvoline Euro 5w40
2012 VW Tiguan 110k - Mobil 1 TDT 5w40
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Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: KCJeep] #5445745 06/03/20 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KCJeep
I have a recently posted UOA in the section but not a VOA, dealer Castrol 5w40. I don't know the starting TBN but the residual TBN after 9,500 miles was 3.5 so it must be pretty good. Walmart's Edge 5w40 now has the Titanium additive the dealer stuff does not. I have on my home computer downloaded several other recent UOAs of OE 5w40 and they all looked good as well.

Starting viscosity I think is about 14.1 @100.

Saw the 14.1 on their spec sheet. TBN must be around 10. Thx for indo.


2018 VW Atlas SEL 4Motion 3.6 - Dealer Castrol 5W40 VW filter
2018 VW GSW S 4Motion 1.8 DSG Unitronic St2 IS20 - LiquiMoly Molygen 5W40 Mann filter
2013 Ford Focus SE HB 5-spd 2.0 - MC 5W20 MC filter
Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: TiGeo] #5445798 06/03/20 11:48 PM
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I believe it's 502/505 spec from VW. That walmart casstrol may not meet it. See what the bottle says first.

Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: sloinker] #5445799 06/03/20 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sloinker
I believe it's 502/505 spec from VW. That walmart casstrol may not meet it. See what the bottle says first.

Castrol Edge 5W40 in Wal Mart is VW 505.00/502.00, MB229.3/229.5, BMW LL01, Porsche A40.


11' BMW 328i xDrive 6MT (Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40+ MANN filter)
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Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: edyvw] #5445800 06/03/20 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by sloinker
I believe it's 502/505 spec from VW. That walmart casstrol may not meet it. See what the bottle says first.

Castrol Edge 5W40 in Wal Mart is VW 505.00/502.00, MB229.3/229.5, BMW LL01, Porsche A40.

ok

Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: edyvw] #5445802 06/04/20 12:03 AM
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Went to the casstrol webzite and read their data page for edge 5W40 and it meets the VW specification but does not have their approval. So read that bottle from walmart carefully .

Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: sloinker] #5445803 06/04/20 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sloinker
Went to the casstrol webzite and read their data page for edge 5W40 and it meets the VW specification but does not have their approval. So read that bottle from walmart carefully .

It is approved:
https://vw-audi.oemdtc.com/434/volkswagen-engine-oil-quality-standards-u-s-only
Know how Castrol words approvals first before you read it.

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11' BMW 328i xDrive 6MT (Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40+ MANN filter)
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W30+OE filter)
15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 5W30 EP+M1 AP filter).
Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: TiGeo] #5445810 06/04/20 12:59 AM
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This is the text from December of 2019 on their data sheet. Clear as mud.


EDGE 5W-40 U.S.

Strength for Maximum Performance

Description

Advances in engine technology have led to increased power and efficiency, meaning engines work harder and under
higher pressures than ever before. The only thing keeping engine components apart is the oil, so it needs to be strong
and remain strong. Castrol EDGE is our strongest and most advanced range of full synthetic motor oils. It provides
superior motor oil strength and helps your vehicle maximize its performance.

Application
Formulated for approved and licensed European OEM specifications. Meets industry standards for API SN/CF and ACEA
A3/B4. Meets BMW, MB, Porsche and VW specifications.

Advantages
Castrol EDGE provides superior motor oil strength for engines that work harder due to higher engine pressures,
helping your vehicle maximize engine performance.
* Reduces metal to metal contact across a range of different driving speeds.
* Protects the engine for the entire drain interval as recommended by your owner's manual even under extreme
pressure.
* Decreases engine deposit formulation to help maximize engine response.
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The specification/approval word play has been hashed out extensively on BITOG.

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Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: TiGeo] #5445811 06/04/20 01:13 AM
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Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: sloinker] #5445831 06/04/20 03:12 AM
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From that website...

Good enough for me.

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Re: Castrol bulk 5W40 (VW/Audi dealer oil) VOA/TBN/viscosity numbers - anyone/help? [Re: TiGeo] #5445841 06/04/20 05:01 AM
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Castrol Edge 5W40 is clearly a 502 oil....always has been.


2018 VW Atlas SEL 4Motion 3.6 - Dealer Castrol 5W40 VW filter
2018 VW GSW S 4Motion 1.8 DSG Unitronic St2 IS20 - LiquiMoly Molygen 5W40 Mann filter
2013 Ford Focus SE HB 5-spd 2.0 - MC 5W20 MC filter
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