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Do you practice a vegan-keto diet? #5445281 06/03/20 12:08 PM
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Before I start on a keto type diet, I want to try and start correctly. I'm curious if any of you practice a, what I call, a "vegan-keto" diet? I don't eat a lot of meats to begin with, so for me to give up meat would be pretty easy. I'm guessing that those of you who are already vegans and further that by consuming a keto diet are pretty darn healthy?

If you are a "vegan-keto" fan, can you point me toward a website, books, etc., that have some healthy recipe examples?

I welcome any advice you have along this topic.

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Re: Do you practice a vegan-keto diet? [Re: Ed_Flecko] #5445292 06/03/20 12:20 PM
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I love Keto but far from Vegan. I take Keto Chow shakes to work. They use a milk based protein and you add your own fat, oil or cream or whatever. Most flavors are really good and they load it down with all the nutrients you need.

Vegan and Keto doesn't leave much, i mean you eat avocados non stop.


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I'm sort of thinking that most vegan diets, depending on the specific type of "vegan", are probably already "keto"...or pretty darn close?

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Re: Do you practice a vegan-keto diet? [Re: Ed_Flecko] #5445301 06/03/20 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed_Flecko
I'm sort of thinking that most vegan diets, depending on the specific type of "vegan", are probably already "keto"...or pretty darn close?

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Nope...many fruits and veggies have tons of sugars. Sugars are not allowed on Keto. Combining the two is really limiting your pallet...IMHO.


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Re: Do you practice a vegan-keto diet? [Re: DriveHard] #5445304 06/03/20 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DriveHard
Nope...many fruits and veggies have tons of sugars. Sugars are not allowed on Keto. Combining the two is really limiting your pallet...IMHO.

Well, O.K. But since you should eat fruits and veggies for good health, how do I know which ones are "keto approved"?

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Re: Do you practice a vegan-keto diet? [Re: Ed_Flecko] #5445322 06/03/20 01:07 PM
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Keto is extreme low carbs..relying on body fat and ketones for energy . Most call for max 5-10% of your caloric intake in carbs ..which is minimal. When I need to lose weight I stay under 50 grams of carbs per day..which is not Keto but works extremely well for me. Even at that number of carbs it takes a week or so for your body to adjust. The one time I went 15 grams carbs..I am sure I was in Ketosis..it took me 10 days for my body to adjust. I am sure you will be happy with a under 50 gram carb diet. Perfect balance for me

List of low carbs but the amount you can use is MINIMAL
Asparagus
Artichokes
Broccoli
Cauliflower
Sweet potato
Zucchini
Brussels sprouts
Leafy greens like spinach and kale
Nuts (almonds, macadamias, Brazil nuts and walnuts)
Raspberries and blackberries
Chia and flax seeds

Re: Do you practice a vegan-keto diet? [Re: Ed_Flecko] #5445337 06/03/20 01:22 PM
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In case you didn't know, a keto diet has a very specific goal. It puts your body into a mode where it gets its energy from fats instead of carbohydrates.
That is called being in ketosis.

Once your body makes that switch, a supply of carbs will pop your body out of ketosis and it will want it's energy from carbs again.
To answer your question of how you know which fruits and veggies are keto approved, the answer is the ones with low carbs.
most fruit is out. potatoes, pasta etc are out.

a quick google on "What can I eat on keto kiet" yields this quick overview. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/ketogenic-diet-foods#section11

the reason people are suggesting combining Keto and Vegan would be tough is the source of fats. Not many veggies are high in fats (avocados are) and if you're vegan, that eliminates dairy and meats.

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I'm vegan, not keto. I would think putting your body into ketosis would be quite unhealthy unless the issue you are trying to fix is worse than that.

Re: Do you practice a vegan-keto diet? [Re: Ed_Flecko] #5445368 06/03/20 01:49 PM
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Thank you all for your input!

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Re: Do you practice a vegan-keto diet? [Re: Ed_Flecko] #5445395 06/03/20 02:13 PM
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I'm a 2nd hand vegan. Cow eats greens, I eat the cow.

On a serious note, I tried the keto diet for a few months, but I stopped due a loss of energy and mood. It did the same to my mother though it lead to her finding out she had Crohn's disease.

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I eat a plant based way of eating. I drink only Almond milk unsweeten, do no dairy cow products at all,,no meats at all, lots of veggies and veggie burgers from Costco( DR Mcgreger veggie burgers, lots of potatoes and rice and black beans or pintos. Lost 30 lbs ...this way of eating will usually stop Type 2 diabetes. I took a course Plant BAsed Eating from a hospital here in Chattanooga...Im 74 and feel great....got off 25 mgs of blood pressure meds to boot...watch Forks over Knives on Netflix when you can..

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Originally Posted by CourierDriver
I eat a plant based way of eating. I drink only Almond milk unsweeten, do no dairy cow products at all,,no meats at all, lots of veggies and veggie burgers from Costco( DR Mcgreger veggie burgers, lots of potatoes and rice and black beans or pintos. Lost 30 lbs ...this way of eating will usually stop Type 2 diabetes. I took a course Plant BAsed Eating from a hospital here in Chattanooga...Im 74 and feel great....got off 25 mgs of blood pressure meds to boot...watch Forks over Knives on Netflix when you can..

Read this book...……......How not to Die, by Michael Greger, MD



Wow...that's tremendous!

I'll check out your recommendations...thank you.

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There is no actual "keto diet"... there's just eating/drinking decisions you make that cause your body to go into ketosis. Ketosis occurs when your glycogen stores are depleted enough that your body undergoes lipolysis and turns your fat stores into usable energy.

Everyone's body is capable of ketosis because it's a biological survival mode, but most people who have lived on carbs for most of their lives will find it an undesirable state. If you are a hard thinking type (computer analyst, accounting ,etc) then you'll most likely notice that the brain tends to work incredibly well when you feed it dietary sugar, and it works at half or a quarter efficiency when it runs on ketone bodies.

On top of that, most people are not used to consuming a high fat diet and fall into the high protein trap which means gluconeogenesis becomes a risk.

Mixing veganism into this means you're going to be eating a LOT of avocadoes, nuts, and oils if you're going to be vegan and keto strict. It becomes expensive and an absolute ruiner for your social life.


Adopting one or both of these diets does not automatically make you healthier, and in fact you could end up rebounding very hard back to processed foods and animal products if you do not thoroughly research what you're getting into.

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Watch the documentary The Game Changers

"the more meat men eat, the quicker they lose their libido. As stated in the film, a plant-based diet can increase testosterone levels by 20 percent in as soon as 10 days."

I have done Keto and then done the whole foods plant based... as this film discusses... I will never do Keto again.

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Originally Posted by krismoriah72
Watch the documentary The Game Changers

"the more meat men eat, the quicker they lose their libido. As stated in the film, a plant-based diet can increase testosterone levels by 20 percent in as soon as 10 days."

I have done Keto and then done the whole foods plant based... as this film discusses... I will never do Keto again.



Thank you.

Where do I find "The Game Changers"?

What do you mean, "whole foods plant based"?

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