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Shopping for New Generator #5443882 06/01/20 12:02 PM
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Anyone familiar with Ford and Westinghouse generators?

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Originally Posted by doolah02
Anyone familiar with Ford and Westinghouse generators?



Be aware, Westinghouse hasn't been an actual consumer grade company for a LOOOONG time. The name is just licensed for application to cheap chinese junk. The only remnants of the Westinghouse corporation that are really related to the original are Westinghouse Nuclear (nuclear reactors) and Teco-Westinghouse (industrial motors, wind turbines, switchgear, etc.)


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Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: doolah02] #5443912 06/01/20 12:45 PM
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Have you done all the needed homework for a generator. Figuring out your load? How will you connect it? Fuel; gas or propane?

If its for hurricane season then you can plan ahead and get several 5 gallon containers of gas. If its for unknown power failures, keeping enough gas around all the time is a PIA.

For you in FL, do you want to run the A/C? Well pump, refrig, freezer? A digital clamp on ammeter can help calculate the load.


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Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: 440Magnum] #5443954 06/01/20 01:49 PM
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Wow!

Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: doolah02] #5443955 06/01/20 01:50 PM
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OP, if you have electric water heating be aware that if you rewire a switch into the water-heater to run a 240 VAC water-heater on 120 VAC it will only use 1/4 the amount of watts. This is because at 1/2 voltage it will draw 1/2 the current. And 1/2 times 1/2 = 1/4 of course with only 1/4 as much heat going into the water it will take 4 times longer to heat up a cold tank of water. But this could be a very significant reduction in the amount of power you require from your generator, which might even allow you to get by with a smaller generator, and or apply a much lighter load to your generator so it is not worked as hard in the hot Florida heat.

The real down side it that if multiple people want to take a shower, they may have to wait a while between showers for the slower recover time of the water-heater when ran in this mode, but it is a lot easier on a generator.


Boy will I be happy when ALL vehicles on public roads are autonomous.


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Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: Donald] #5443956 06/01/20 01:52 PM
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No AC or pump, just lights Tvs refrigerator and freezer. And a couple of fans.

Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: JimPghPA] #5443959 06/01/20 01:56 PM
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My water heater is 120 volts. I think I can get by with a 5000 watt generator.

Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: doolah02] #5443989 06/01/20 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by doolah02
My water heater is 120 volts. I think I can get by with a 5000 watt generator.


Ideally you want more wattage than you need, but the problem then is with fuel consumption, which can get pretty high.

You have to consider things like will you have fuel on hand? Will you be able to get it?


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Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: JTK] #5443997 06/01/20 02:35 PM
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I'm in South Florida so fuel is no issue, might have to wait in line awhile but I can get it. My previous generator was
an old 10 hp Generac 5000 which ran everything good.

Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: doolah02] #5444029 06/01/20 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by doolah02
I'm in South Florida so fuel is no issue, might have to wait in line awhile but I can get it. My previous generator was
an old 10 hp Generac 5000 which ran everything good.


What happened to that generator? Most people do not run generators enough to wear them out.

Northern Tools has many generators on its website.


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Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: Donald] #5444034 06/01/20 03:18 PM
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I bought it in 1997. Has an extremely loud muffler and very difficult to replace hoses.
I gave it to my nephew.

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Check out the Predator line at Harbor Freight. I had an old Coleman 5kw powered by a noisy/thirsty/hard to start Tecumseh HM100. I bought a 6.5 kw Predator and it will allow me to get along just fine come hurricane season. grin2


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Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: doolah02] #5444063 06/01/20 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by doolah02
I bought it in 1997. Has an extremely loud muffler and very difficult to replace hoses.
I gave it to my nephew.



A new one will only be marginally quieter unless you buy a $1500 and up Honda, Yamaha, etc.

I've got a ~3300 watt inverter style generator that came "free" with a new travel trailer my inlaws bought a few years ago. They keep it at my house so I can service it. It's a "powerhouse PH3300i". It's pretty loud for a totally enclosed, sound insulated unit and a pain to maintain because of being totally enclosed. It vibrates a lot as well. This is what you get in the under maybe $800 crowd.


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Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: JimPghPA] #5444067 06/01/20 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JimPghPA
OP, if you have electric water heating be aware that if you rewire a switch into the water-heater to run a 240 VAC water-heater on 120 VAC it will only use 1/4 the amount of watts. This is because at 1/2 voltage it will draw 1/2 the current. And 1/2 times 1/2 = 1/4 of course with only 1/4 as much heat going into the water it will take 4 times longer to heat up a cold tank of water. But this could be a very significant reduction in the amount of power you require from your generator, which might even allow you to get by with a smaller generator, and or apply a much lighter load to your generator so it is not worked as hard in the hot Florida heat.

The real down side it that if multiple people want to take a shower, they may have to wait a while between showers for the slower recover time of the water-heater when ran in this mode, but it is a lot easier on a generator.


You better go back for a refresher course on Ohm's law and basic electricity

Re: Shopping for New Generator [Re: andyd] #5444076 06/01/20 04:17 PM
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Do you have an idea who makes Predator engines?

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