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High Gloss product for Silver car? #5440875 05/28/20 11:15 AM
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Looking for good gloss on new Silver car.

Have applied a couple coats of TW Hybrid Spray and not totally satisfied. Just finished with coat of old, old TW blue color liquid creme stuff thats been on the shelf for years and it produced a more deep down shine. This stuff is so old it "guarantees 12 protection" but had no listing of what was in it.

Read a lot about Griot's Garage best show was; would this likely produce high gloss?

Recommendations appreciated.


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Re: High Gloss product for Silver car? [Re: tc1446] #5440990 05/28/20 01:21 PM
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Collinite 915 works well for me.

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Re: High Gloss product for Silver car? [Re: tc1446] #5441027 05/28/20 02:03 PM
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As many have said in other threads, shine really comes primarily from prep and secondarily from the products you use.

What tools do you have or are willing to buy...
- Clay or synthetic clay kit
- random orbital buffer or are you applying everything by hand?
- compound/polish and pads
- final step product like a sealant/wax/glaze

SLO_town - what was your process?


All of the above being said, find something you like and use it often. Any product from some of the bigs guys is going to be quality - meguirs, griot, etc.

Re: High Gloss product for Silver car? [Re: tc1446] #5441086 05/28/20 03:38 PM
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It’s all in the prep as has been stated already. Some waxes are noted for high gloss shine but usually at the cost of longevity. The Griots Best Of Show wax tends to be more on that side of the equation. It is a good product for what it does. Their Poly Wax might be a good option for you or their new Ceramic 3 in 1 spray wax. I use that on a silver Mazda and it shines very well.


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Re: High Gloss product for Silver car? [Re: NYSteve] #5441194 05/28/20 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NYSteve
As many have said in other threads, shine really comes primarily from prep and secondarily from the products you use.

What tools do you have or are willing to buy...
- Clay or synthetic clay kit
- random orbital buffer or are you applying everything by hand?
- compound/polish and pads
- final step product like a sealant/wax/glaze


I do have a buffer, pads, compound, but would not want to use it on a new car finish, especially compound. Don't have any clay; have never used it. Should it be used on a new finish?


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Re: High Gloss product for Silver car? [Re: tc1446] #5441209 05/28/20 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tc1446
Originally Posted by NYSteve
As many have said in other threads, shine really comes primarily from prep and secondarily from the products you use.

What tools do you have or are willing to buy...
- Clay or synthetic clay kit
- random orbital buffer or are you applying everything by hand?
- compound/polish and pads
- final step product like a sealant/wax/glaze


I do have a buffer, pads, compound, but would not want to use it on a new car finish, especially compound. Don't have any clay; have never used it. Should it be used on a new finish?




A lot of new cars are transported by rail thus they get rail dust on the finish. One way to check your finish is the plastic bag trick.

http://www.adamsforums.com/topic/1200-the-plastic-bag-clay-bar-test-youll-say-wow/

Claying can be very beneficial.

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Re: High Gloss product for Silver car? [Re: tc1446] #5441216 05/28/20 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tc1446

I do have a buffer, pads, compound, but would not want to use it on a new car finish, especially compound. Don't have any clay; have never used it. Should it be used on a new finish?


I would use an iron remover, then clay and use an all in one polish like blackfire. you can then top it with whatever wax you prefer.

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Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant after some polishing.


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All these ceramic products that are on the market now sacrifice depth and gloss for longevity.

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Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by tc1446
[quote=NYSteve]As many have said in other threads, shine really comes primarily from prep and secondarily from the products you use.



A lot of new cars are transported by rail thus they get rail dust on the finish. One way to check your finish is the plastic bag trick.

http://www.adamsforums.com/topic/1200-the-plastic-bag-clay-bar-test-youll-say-wow/

Claying can be very beneficial.



Well heck! Wish you hadn't posted that link! LOL Did the test and I could feel the diff with the bag. I've never clayed a car as it seemed more work
than I could manage but I will get some and give it a try. Maybe have to do a bit at a time. I have plenty of the spray stuff to use with the clay and micro towels as well.


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With proper use, clay is much less work than you seem to think. The horizontal panels are worst for collecting fallout. Using adequate lube, it's typically 2-4 minutes per panel.

Many of us have changed over to clay mitts or towels, and are very happy with the change. Even quicker process.

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Originally Posted by gizzsdad
With proper use, clay is much less work than you seem to think. The horizontal panels are worst for collecting fallout. Using adequate lube, it's typically 2-4 minutes per panel.

Many of us have changed over to clay mitts or towels, and are very happy with the change. Even quicker process.


Thanks Gizzsdad, was looking at them online and wondered how well they worked. Might be just the thing for the Audi since its pretty darn clean at the moment. Will see if they are avail locally; suspect I will have to order.


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Re: High Gloss product for Silver car? [Re: Finklejag] #5441835 05/29/20 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Finklejag
All these ceramic products that are on the market now sacrifice depth and gloss for longevity.


Ceramic sealants/coatings look great as long as the proper prep is performed. I think the issue is that traditional waxes and sealants have an ability to mask light defects due to the oils and thickeners in the product, ceramics do not.

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Re: High Gloss product for Silver car? [Re: tc1446] #5441925 05/29/20 04:09 PM
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In the recent past I have had 2 silver cars. Silver isn't a color that really "pops". So it really doesn't matter if you go balls out with a 12 hour detail with high dollar products or just lay and wax it. My experience owning these 2 cars and trying to get it as "shiny" as a black car

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Originally Posted by Dadillac
In the recent past I have had 2 silver cars. Silver isn't a color that really "pops". So it really doesn't matter if you go balls out with a 12 hour detail with high dollar products or just lay and wax it. My experience owning these 2 cars and trying to get it as "shiny" as a black car

Don


Point well taken and I don't disagree. In my recent car shopping, BMW and some Mercedes seem to have very glossy silvers....I call them creamy...as opposed to some makers who seem to use a lot more metallic in the paint and are not nearly so shiny. Since we were specifically looking for a silver color, we turned down a couple of brands simply because of the dull look. The Audi is suitably shiny and I'm looking for anything that might be better than my current TW Hybrid. I like to try diff brands and will give some of the suggestions above a go.


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