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The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights #5437539 05/24/20 02:43 PM
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I'm puzzled with the obsession towards retro-adding 0Wxx oils, especially by people with California, Arizona, etc in their profiles.
Please explain.

Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5437554 05/24/20 03:02 PM
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Ahh because they can use a 0w and it's no big deal...

LOL


Well that and the "better" oils typically are say a 0w30 or 0w40 or 0w20... Mobil 1 0w40 carries many high level approvals like Porsche a40 and MB 229.5 etc etc...


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Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5437556 05/24/20 03:03 PM
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I see that your question is more focused on those in hot climates, but I use 0W-20 in my 5W-20 spec vehicles because I'll take whatever help I can get for cold starts at -40°C.

As for warmer climates, I would suggest that if one can get comparable protection from a 0W-20 at operating temperatures (as compared to 5W-20), then why not take advantage of improved flow at startup? On the other hand, if running 0W-20 costs you an appreciable amount of protection at operating temps, then 0W-20 wouldn't make sense.


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Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5437558 05/24/20 03:04 PM
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The W does not stand for weight.


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Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5437559 05/24/20 03:05 PM
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Because it is superior?


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Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: bbhero] #5437560 05/24/20 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bbhero
Ahh because they can use a 0w and it's no big deal...



True in properly designed engines. Not so in others, Ford, GM, Hyundai/Kia, BMW, Honda and a few others come to mind.


People who count on their fingers should maintain a discreet silence.
Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: Cujet] #5437567 05/24/20 03:11 PM
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I can't think of a Ford or GM motor where a 0w would hurt a thing....

A 0w30 or 0w20 say in a Ford Fusion 3.0 would not do anything wrong with it...


Only thing a 0w means is it is thinner at very cold temps.... Which would be beneficial for any vehicle if it were truly very cold out.

The operating temp like a 20 operation viscosity may well not be the best with some very old vehicles. Like +20 year vehicles. Ok I can agree with that.

Let's say a 1993 Ford ranger which speced a 5w30 from the owners manual...
If someone put a 0w30 in it... That Ford Ranger would be just fine. .



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Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5437583 05/24/20 03:25 PM
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I just use what's easily obtainable and in spec. When I lived in Mississippi I used Edge 0w40 in my old MK5 Jetta. Didn't need the 0w, but it was the most affordable and easily obtainable oil that I was able to get. Same situation with the SLK, while it gets colder here in PA and MD, 0w is not needed since it's a summer car. Again the 0w40 is easily obtainable...


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Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: bbhero] #5437585 05/24/20 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bbhero
I can't think of a Ford or GM motor where a 0w would hurt a thing....

A 0w30 or 0w20 say in a Ford Fusion 3.0 would not do anything wrong with it...


Only thing a 0w means is it is thinner at very cold temps.... Which would be beneficial for any vehicle if it were truly very cold out.

The operating temp like a 20 operation viscosity may well not be the best with some very old vehicles. Like +20 year vehicles. Ok I can agree with that.

Let's say a 1993 Ford ranger which speced a 5w30 from the owners manual...
If someone put a 0w30 in it... That Ford Ranger would be just fine. .



How about a 6.4l diesel? Prolly should not put it in that.


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Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5437587 05/24/20 03:27 PM
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My 2018 Taurus is using 0w20 RGT because $10/5qrt was to good of a deal to pass up on. Also got some 5w20 aswell.

Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5437590 05/24/20 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by IMSA_Racing_Fan
I'm puzzled with the obsession towards retro-adding 0Wxx oils, especially by people with California, Arizona, etc in their profiles.
Please explain.

Retro-adding? Please explain.


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Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: Chris142] #5437593 05/24/20 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris142
Originally Posted by bbhero
I can't think of a Ford or GM motor where a 0w would hurt a thing....

A 0w30 or 0w20 say in a Ford Fusion 3.0 would not do anything wrong with it...


Only thing a 0w means is it is thinner at very cold temps.... Which would be beneficial for any vehicle if it were truly very cold out.

The operating temp like a 20 operation viscosity may well not be the best with some very old vehicles. Like +20 year vehicles. Ok I can agree with that.

Let's say a 1993 Ford ranger which speced a 5w30 from the owners manual...
If someone put a 0w30 in it... That Ford Ranger would be just fine. .



How about a 6.4l diesel? Prolly should not put it in that.



Not talking about diesels...

Easy enough.....



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Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5437594 05/24/20 03:31 PM
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New mid engine corvette specs 0w40 can’t see much winter driving in them their engineers must also be obsessed with zero weight oils?? Don’t know

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Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: Quattro Pete] #5437597 05/24/20 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Quattro Pete
Originally Posted by IMSA_Racing_Fan
I'm puzzled with the obsession towards retro-adding 0Wxx oils, especially by people with California, Arizona, etc in their profiles.
Please explain.

Retro-adding? Please explain.



Quattro Pete, seriously? USA Even I know that one. Actually, I think it is a perfect description. Just tilt your head a little to the right and wink with your left eye.

Retro Diner, Backwards compatible, etc.

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Re: The BITOG forum fascination with zero weights [Re: IMSA_Racing_Fan] #5437598 05/24/20 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by IMSA_Racing_Fan
I'm puzzled with the obsession towards retro-adding 0Wxx oils, especially by people with California, Arizona, etc in their profiles.
Please explain.


My 09’ Camry specs 0w20 oil. What’s wrong with that?’


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