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3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. #5436694 05/23/20 11:46 AM
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This will be my third wheel bearing replacement. I replaced the fist 2 because the thought was maybe i just got a faulty one. They were the same brand bought from the same place. It sounds just like a bad bearing. I doubt I just have bad enough luck to buy 3 bad bearings in a row. What else could it be? It doesn't have to do with braking or taking turns. Noise increases with speed.

Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436696 05/23/20 11:51 AM
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What car make/model/year are we talking about?


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Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436698 05/23/20 11:52 AM
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There are a lot of junk. Roll of the dice with cheaper brands. I’ve had 2 bad right out of the box. 3 is possible but not likely. Any play when trying to rock the wheel while lifted?


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Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436702 05/23/20 11:55 AM
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Have someone drive the car slowly past you while you stand outside and listen for the noise. It's easy to mis-identify the source of car noises. A truly bad wheel bearing will almost always make some noise when you turn the wheel by hand with the car jacked up. It gets a lot louder with the weight of the car on it of course.

Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436709 05/23/20 12:02 PM
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2010 jeep commander commander 3.7 4x4 . I putbon 2 timken and the last one a moog. There isn't any play.

Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436711 05/23/20 12:07 PM
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What bearings are you buying, and how long are they lasting?


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Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436718 05/23/20 12:13 PM
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not entirely surprising

do you have a stethoscope of any kind of electronic ear?

I presume the run out was in spec and it free spun by hand before installation?

Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: spasm3] #5436719 05/23/20 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by spasm3
What bearings are you buying, and how long are they lasting?

Stated above. When I originally replaced it the noise did go away almost. Over the next few months the noise got bad again. Assumed it was a bad bearing replaced it got a little quieter but picked up the noise to where it was with a day of driving. Same with this third one.

Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: ABN_CBT_ENGR] #5436721 05/23/20 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ABN_CBT_ENGR
not entirely surprising

do you have a stethoscope of any kind of electronic ear?

I presume the run out was in spec and it free spun by hand before installation?

Yeah in storage. They aren't expensive really i might just buy another. Yes it free spun.

Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436727 05/23/20 12:21 PM
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I would make sure you have the correct torque numbers. If your numbers are wrong that could be the problem. The timken hub bearings have done fine for me.

Usually the axle nut to hub torque was around 130lb/ft.

Check somewhere else in case your source is incorrect.


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Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436729 05/23/20 12:24 PM
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Then spin it (installed) and listen- if "this" bearing has a grind you should hear it.

Then remove the nut ( free float) and see if there is a difference.

Process of elimination- this "grind" is either coming from the new hub ( it has a force exerted on it and taking the clearance out of the bearings) or another bearing/component is failing along the shaft.

Leaving them together and careful listening should help isolate it.

If it has a force exerting on the hub then it either has to be axial or radial. Grossly misaligned ( which I would think would be visibly obvious and hard to reassemble) or taking all the clearance out of the hub ( pushing out or pulling in)

Need to check all of those possibilities

Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436733 05/23/20 12:29 PM
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Something that I feel really stupid about is i replaced my front shocks and struts a short time ago. I planed to have an alignment done but got busy and forgot about it. Could this be the issue?

Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436735 05/23/20 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Micahmcmeen
Something that I feel really stupid about is i replaced my front shocks and struts a short time ago. I planed to have an alignment done but got busy and forgot about it. Could this be the issue?


Definitely a possible contributing factor but to me if this was (is) the sole cause I would think if it was so far off ( to stress a hub assembly) that you wouldn't be able to drive the vehicle if you were able to fully reassemble it in the first place.

But every possible contributing factor has to be examined and confirmed/eliminated

The only "fact" we seem to have now is a statistical impossibility that the hub is the problem since you now have gone through 4 (this brings the original diagnosis now in question as well)

Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436739 05/23/20 12:45 PM
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Check the ABS components. I don't know how these hubs are, but some have internal ABS reluctors and sensors.

Re: 3rd wheel bearing. Still grinding noise. [Re: Micahmcmeen] #5436780 05/23/20 02:10 PM
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Wheel bearing and hub assembly? Replaced as a unit usually. You also have CV joints which can make noise.


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