wemay
Site Donor 2023
Sorry if old news.
For those wanting greater HTHS in SN or want an easy to find 5W40 jug with A3/B4...
For those wanting greater HTHS in SN or want an easy to find 5W40 jug with A3/B4...
STP Euro 5W-40 now in 5qt jugs as well
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wemay
Site Donor 2023
With a thanks to MSTUEBER for obtaining the PDS from AZone back in 2018...
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4631265/2
Description
STP 5W-40 EURO FS 6/1Q
Inspection Information Test Method Typical Value
Gravity, �API ASTM D287 34.83
Specific Gravity @ 60�F (15.6�C) ASTM D4052 0.8507
Viscosity @ 40�C, cSt ASTM D445 76.77
Viscosity @ 100�C, cSt ASTM D445 12.95
Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 170
Pour Point, �C (�F) ASTM D5950 -45�C (-49�F)
Cold Cranking Simulator at (�C), cP ASTM D5293 5266 (-30)
High Temperature / High Shear Vis at 150�C, cP ASTM D5481 3.7
Noack Volatility, % loss ASTM D6375 10
Color ASTM D1500 2
Zinc, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.102
Phosphorus, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.092
Calcium, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.26
Sulfur, wt. % ASTM D4951 0.19
Boron, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.007
Nitrogen, wt. % ASTM D4629 0.089
Pumping Viscosity at (�C), cP ASTM D4684 28,400 (-35)
TBN, mgKOH/g ASTM D2896 9.8
Claims Information
API SN Approved
API SM Meets Requirements
API SH, SG, SF, SE, SD, SC Meets Requirements
ACEA A3/B3 and A3/B4 Meets Requirements
MB p229.3 / p229.5 Meets Requirements
PSA B71 2296 Meets Requirements
BMW LL-01 Meets Requirements
VW 501 01 / 502 00 / 505 00 Meets Requirements
OPEL GM-LL-B-025 Meets Requirements
Renault 0710 / 0700 Meets Requirements
Porsche A40 Meets Requirements
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4631265/2
Description
STP 5W-40 EURO FS 6/1Q
Inspection Information Test Method Typical Value
Gravity, �API ASTM D287 34.83
Specific Gravity @ 60�F (15.6�C) ASTM D4052 0.8507
Viscosity @ 40�C, cSt ASTM D445 76.77
Viscosity @ 100�C, cSt ASTM D445 12.95
Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 170
Pour Point, �C (�F) ASTM D5950 -45�C (-49�F)
Cold Cranking Simulator at (�C), cP ASTM D5293 5266 (-30)
High Temperature / High Shear Vis at 150�C, cP ASTM D5481 3.7
Noack Volatility, % loss ASTM D6375 10
Color ASTM D1500 2
Zinc, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.102
Phosphorus, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.092
Calcium, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.26
Sulfur, wt. % ASTM D4951 0.19
Boron, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.007
Nitrogen, wt. % ASTM D4629 0.089
Pumping Viscosity at (�C), cP ASTM D4684 28,400 (-35)
TBN, mgKOH/g ASTM D2896 9.8
Claims Information
API SN Approved
API SM Meets Requirements
API SH, SG, SF, SE, SD, SC Meets Requirements
ACEA A3/B3 and A3/B4 Meets Requirements
MB p229.3 / p229.5 Meets Requirements
PSA B71 2296 Meets Requirements
BMW LL-01 Meets Requirements
VW 501 01 / 502 00 / 505 00 Meets Requirements
OPEL GM-LL-B-025 Meets Requirements
Renault 0710 / 0700 Meets Requirements
Porsche A40 Meets Requirements
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Who makes itand what is the typical price?
wemay
Site Donor 2023
According to MSTUEBER in the referenced thread, Warren Distribution supplied the PDS through AZone. I purchased it as an oil change special (with a Mobil1 filter) for $24.99. The price at the rack said $21.99 for only the jug.
Thanks Wemay for the great heads up. I'll let my friend know of this
wemay
Site Donor 2023
Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Thanks Wemay for the great heads up. I'll let my friend know of this
You got it Adam. Any time.
Thanks Wemay for the great heads up. I'll let my friend know of this
You got it Adam. Any time.
wemay
Site Donor 2023
wemay
Site Donor 2023
Funny aside...
I called MAG1 just to see if they would tell me that this STP and Mag1 were made by Warren Distribution. He could not comment on STP but said yes, Mag1 is WD. So i asked him what they would recommend for my Passat 2.0T (VW requires 0W-20 / VW508.00). He said "officially" nothing they have meets recommendation BUT, previous year 2.0T and 1.8T recommended 5W40...."do you understand what i'm telling you" he said with an over the phone wink wink. Lol.
On their lube advisor the euro version of the 2.0T (162kw engine) recommends 5w30 c3, 0w40 and 5w40 A3/B4 meeting VW505.00.
I called MAG1 just to see if they would tell me that this STP and Mag1 were made by Warren Distribution. He could not comment on STP but said yes, Mag1 is WD. So i asked him what they would recommend for my Passat 2.0T (VW requires 0W-20 / VW508.00). He said "officially" nothing they have meets recommendation BUT, previous year 2.0T and 1.8T recommended 5W40...."do you understand what i'm telling you" he said with an over the phone wink wink. Lol.
On their lube advisor the euro version of the 2.0T (162kw engine) recommends 5w30 c3, 0w40 and 5w40 A3/B4 meeting VW505.00.
Originally Posted by wemay
So i asked him what they would recommend for my Passat 2.0T (VW requires 0W-20 / VW508.00). He said "officially" nothing they have meets recommendation BUT, previous year 2.0T and 1.8T recommended 5W40...."do you understand what i'm telling you" he said with an over the phone wink wink. Lol.
On their lube advisor the euro version of the 2.0T (162kw engine) recommends 5w30 c3, 0w40 and 5w40 A3/B4 meeting VW505.00.
That is inappropriate advice for a vehicle that has a VW approval requirement.
So i asked him what they would recommend for my Passat 2.0T (VW requires 0W-20 / VW508.00). He said "officially" nothing they have meets recommendation BUT, previous year 2.0T and 1.8T recommended 5W40...."do you understand what i'm telling you" he said with an over the phone wink wink. Lol.
On their lube advisor the euro version of the 2.0T (162kw engine) recommends 5w30 c3, 0w40 and 5w40 A3/B4 meeting VW505.00.
That is inappropriate advice for a vehicle that has a VW approval requirement.
wemay
Site Donor 2023
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by wemay
So i asked him what they would recommend for my Passat 2.0T (VW requires 0W-20 / VW508.00). He said "officially" nothing they have meets recommendation BUT, previous year 2.0T and 1.8T recommended 5W40...."do you understand what i'm telling you" he said with an over the phone wink wink. Lol.
On their lube advisor the euro version of the 2.0T (162kw engine) recommends 5w30 c3, 0w40 and 5w40 A3/B4 meeting VW505.00.
That is inappropriate advice for a vehicle that has a VW approval requirement.
That's the thing, he didn't give me advise...officially. He advised that they do not have the required oil. That was the official stance. The rest was between the lines.
Originally Posted by wemay
So i asked him what they would recommend for my Passat 2.0T (VW requires 0W-20 / VW508.00). He said "officially" nothing they have meets recommendation BUT, previous year 2.0T and 1.8T recommended 5W40...."do you understand what i'm telling you" he said with an over the phone wink wink. Lol.
On their lube advisor the euro version of the 2.0T (162kw engine) recommends 5w30 c3, 0w40 and 5w40 A3/B4 meeting VW505.00.
That is inappropriate advice for a vehicle that has a VW approval requirement.
That's the thing, he didn't give me advise...officially. He advised that they do not have the required oil. That was the official stance. The rest was between the lines.
Originally Posted by wemay
That's the thing, he didn't give me advise...officially. He advised that they do not have the required oil. That was the official stance. The rest was between the lines.
But you called the company's tech line, correct?
That's the thing, he didn't give me advise...officially. He advised that they do not have the required oil. That was the official stance. The rest was between the lines.
But you called the company's tech line, correct?
wemay
Site Donor 2023
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by wemay
That's the thing, he didn't give me advise...officially. He advised that they do not have the required oil. That was the official stance. The rest was between the lines.
But you called the company's tech line, correct?
Correct, and he advised they don't have the correct oil for my application.
Originally Posted by wemay
That's the thing, he didn't give me advise...officially. He advised that they do not have the required oil. That was the official stance. The rest was between the lines.
But you called the company's tech line, correct?
Correct, and he advised they don't have the correct oil for my application.
4WD
$50 site donor 2024
Interesting as well … the 5w20 STP synthetic (Dexos) I bought a year ago was made by Amalie …
wemay
Site Donor 2023
Originally Posted by 4WD
Interesting as well … the 5w20 STP synthetic (Dexos) I bought a year ago was made by Amalie …
That's who I thought blended it too.
Interesting as well … the 5w20 STP synthetic (Dexos) I bought a year ago was made by Amalie …
That's who I thought blended it too.
Originally Posted by bbhero
It's 2,600 ppm of calcium.
Thanks.
So you just multiply the % results by 10,000 and get actual ppm.
Wish they show other Detergent Aditives like magnesium and other Antiware Additives to get the whole picture.
It's 2,600 ppm of calcium.
Thanks.
So you just multiply the % results by 10,000 and get actual ppm.
Wish they show other Detergent Aditives like magnesium and other Antiware Additives to get the whole picture.
Originally Posted by bbhero
Yeah it's strange because other Warren Distribution oil sheets give you molybdenum, magnesium, calcium and boron levels... This one is definitely not giving all that same information.
Thanks for the info Captain. Glad you're here. Have a great weekend.
Yeah it's strange because other Warren Distribution oil sheets give you molybdenum, magnesium, calcium and boron levels... This one is definitely not giving all that same information.
Thanks for the info Captain. Glad you're here. Have a great weekend.
