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2021 Toyota Sienna Redesign #5432388 05/18/20 01:11 PM
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Re: 2021 Toyota Sienna Redesign [Re: The Critic] #5432436 05/18/20 01:57 PM
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I wish they'd bring back the cheaper non-hybrid 4-cylinder version cry

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Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
I wish they'd bring back the cheaper non-hybrid 4-cylinder version cry
Did you ever drive one of these? I wouldn't wish one of them on my worst enemy, they were OK in the city but gutless wonders at highway speeds. The van's aerodynamics are not ideal and it is too heavy for the available power. They only got about 1-2 mpg better in the city and often times 0 mpg better (or worse) on the highway. The buyers didn't want them and they weren't selling so the dealers didn't want them. In in the end, even the rental car companies wouldn't buy them (even at steep discounts), that's why they were discontinued.
IMO they are making a mistake by eliminating the V/6. The hybrid should be optional. The fuel mileage is great, but I'm concerned about the power to weight ratio. The van is still heavy, and probably even heavier as a hybrid.

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33MPG city and highway is impressive for a comfortable 7+ passenger vehicle.

Re: 2021 Toyota Sienna Redesign [Re: The Critic] #5432958 05/19/20 02:03 AM
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Have to say it is nice looking!!!!!


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Re: 2021 Toyota Sienna Redesign [Re: The Critic] #5432964 05/19/20 02:27 AM
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Looks good. Hopefully I do not need to get one ever again.
I think it is big mistake not offering V6 only option.


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I have a tough time believing 3,500lb towing with a 2.5L. It makes sense (more to towing than raw horsepower), but only in the sense that 2.5's that are out there today already have that kind of towing capacity. [Any juice in the battery pack is going to run out real quick on any long hill, so I don't consider the battery good for other than quick acceleration--once moving, it's all on the gas motor, while towing anyhow.]

The cabin looks decidedly un-minivan like.


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Looks nice and I wish I could talk the wife into one for a few years while the kids are little bit she likes (or has been marketed into liking) a full-size SUV. That fuel mileage seems great for the size and capacity. You can get a built in fridge and vacuum too, nice!


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The 2021 looks more like an SUV, only with sliding side doors. When you have little ones, the very best part of owning a van is the sliding side doors, especially if there are child safety seats involved. They make dealing with the kiddos SO much easier in the garage or a parking lot because the doors don't get in the way, plus you can open them with your arms full.

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Originally Posted by wag123
The 2021 looks more like an SUV, only with sliding side doors. When you have little ones, the very best part of owning a van is the sliding side doors, especially if there are child safety seats involved. They make dealing with the kiddos SO much easier in the garage or a parking lot because the doors don't get in the way, plus you can open them with your arms full.

^This.
I got Sienna bcs. minivan size and only minivan with AWD. However, although I had a lot of experience with minivans some time ago through rentals, it never occurred to me how useful sliding doors are actually until I got this one and started to use it. There is no SUV, no matter how big, that is as practical as minivan.


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