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which analysis company ? #5428146 05/13/20 10:49 AM
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going a full year on my 2008 F 150 4x4 5.4L V8 with Royal Purple 5w-30 synthetic(with RP filter)

may reach about 4,500 - 5K miles.....where should I have the oil analyzed ?

I'll post when received

thanks cheers

Re: which analysis company ? [Re: phillyFX4] #5428153 05/13/20 10:56 AM
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Re: which analysis company ? [Re: phillyFX4] #5428155 05/13/20 11:01 AM
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Lots of choices:

Blackstone = $30 (TBN costs $10 extra) https://www.blackstone-labs.com/services/pay/
Polaris = $25 (TBN included) https://www.amsoil.com/search/?text=oil+analyzer
WIX = $10 (TBN included) https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/wix,24077,,0


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Re: which analysis company ? [Re: phillyFX4] #5428165 05/13/20 11:15 AM
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Blackstone's analysis includes pre-paid postage but if you use their mailer then USPS tends to delay delivery.

Not sure about the others including postage, but I find it's a lot easier to just mail the analysis myself in a discreet box. Shouldn't cost more than a few bucks and you can print the shipping label online.

Re: which analysis company ? [Re: phillyFX4] #5428174 05/13/20 11:32 AM
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NAPA kits are $16 and available at local NAPA although may need to get them from the warehouse.

Blackstone is overpriced. $40 for the UOA with TBN. NAPA is $16 for the UOA with TBN.

Blackstone gives you comments encouraging everyone to extend their OCI. Ignore their comments

Some give you oxidation and nitration levels.


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Re: which analysis company ? [Re: Donald] #5428181 05/13/20 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Donald
NAPA kits are $16 and available at local NAPA although may need to get them from the warehouse.

Blackstone is overpriced. $40 for the UOA with TBN. NAPA is $16 for the UOA with TBN.

Blackstone gives you comments encouraging everyone to extend their OCI. Ignore their comments

Some give you oxidation and nitration levels.


I for my Wix kits from Rockauto for $9.95 each.


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Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted by Donald
NAPA kits are $16 and available at local NAPA although may need to get them from the warehouse.

Blackstone is overpriced. $40 for the UOA with TBN. NAPA is $16 for the UOA with TBN.

Blackstone gives you comments encouraging everyone to extend their OCI. Ignore their comments

Some give you oxidation and nitration levels.


I for my Wix kits from Rockauto for $9.95 each.


But if all you want is a UOA kit, then the postage from RA may not be worth it.


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Re: which analysis company ? [Re: phillyFX4] #5428185 05/13/20 11:47 AM
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Its also good to pick one and stick with it so you can see the trends on the reports. They typically list the last 4 or 5 analysis reports on the latest report.


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Re: which analysis company ? [Re: Donald] #5428195 05/13/20 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Donald
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Originally Posted by Donald
NAPA kits are $16 and available at local NAPA although may need to get them from the warehouse.

Blackstone is overpriced. $40 for the UOA with TBN. NAPA is $16 for the UOA with TBN.

Blackstone gives you comments encouraging everyone to extend their OCI. Ignore their comments

Some give you oxidation and nitration levels.


I for my Wix kits from Rockauto for $9.95 each.


But if all you want is a UOA kit, then the postage from RA may not be worth it.


I bought ten of them I think the postage was under $6.


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Re: which analysis company ? [Re: phillyFX4] #5428209 05/13/20 12:19 PM
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Does Amsoil own Polaris?


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Re: which analysis company ? [Re: Donald] #5428211 05/13/20 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Donald
NAPA kits are $16 and available at local NAPA although may need to get them from the warehouse.

Blackstone is overpriced. $40 for the UOA with TBN. NAPA is $16 for the UOA with TBN.

Blackstone gives you comments encouraging everyone to extend their OCI. Ignore their comments

Some give you oxidation and nitration levels.


And why is it a problem for them to encourage extending the OCI, given the data? Btw, they don't always do that. This is a generalization. I've seen plenty where they did not do that and some where they suggested a shorter OCI.

I find Blackstone's comments to be informative. YMMV. I do agree that they are overpriced, though. But they do make it easy.

I am impressed with Napa's price. How is their turnaround time, typically, and who does it for them?


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Originally Posted by IndyFan
Does Amsoil own Polaris?
No; it's just where I buy my kits (<$22 with preferred pricing). Polaris is fully independent:

https://polarislabs.com/


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Originally Posted by IndyFan
I am impressed with Napa's price. How is their turnaround time, typically, and who does it for them?
If you are going to go with NAPA, buy WIX from Rock Auto; both NAPA and WIX use Oil Analyzers as the lab:

https://www.oaitesting.com/

Turnaround is not bad about a weekish for them, I use WIX for my C300 testing and Polaris for my JLUR.


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CAT dealer. See where you closest is.

https://www.cat.com/en_US.html

I dropped mine off in person and met the head of the lab and was offered a peak inside.

I stopped mailing mine to Blackstone or WIX as I have had some go missing in the mail.

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Originally Posted by Donald
NAPA kits are $16 and available at local NAPA although may need to get them from the warehouse.

Blackstone is overpriced. $40 for the UOA with TBN. NAPA is $16 for the UOA with TBN.

Blackstone gives you comments encouraging everyone to extend their OCI. Ignore their comments

Some give you oxidation and nitration levels.


I will not ignore their comments, as I need their comments to help interpret what my analysis is saying.

I know what I know, and I know what I don’t know. When it comes to things I dont know, I value assistance in navigating the subject.

That used to be considered an intelligent approach to life in general, it seems times have changed and left me behind I guess...


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