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Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? #5427796 05/12/20 11:54 PM
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So I had a honda powered craftsman over 12 years ago (160 engine) and it was extremely reliable but I had to continuously slow down in thick and taller grass... just seemed to bog down a bit. It was given to me by a cousin... long story short 11 years ago I bought a "master cut" (mtd type) with a 158cc briggs 550 engine. Well this year its blowing smoke and time to get a new one. Honestly this has been the best piece of power equipment I've ever owned. Goes through thick grass at any pace, doesnt bog, chops up every stick I run over, starts first pull after spring etc.. sad to see it go.

I see now most the 550 series are 140cc.. but I can get a good deal on a troy bilt with a 160 Honda engine.

How are the Honda engines now? Do they bog down in the tough stuff? How is the 140cc briggs in comparison? Dont want to spend a lot as we're remodeling our bathroom currently.

Aa for the troy bilt.. I've seen people had issues with the front bumper "rake"... anything I should know about those? I'm a big briggs fan but I'll jump to the Honda if I wont be disappointed in the power when needed. Honest opinions only, please don't make this a Honda vs BS war

Re: Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? [Re: sh40674] #5427799 05/13/20 12:11 AM
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I’ve got a Honda self-propelled with the GCV190 and it has excellent power, starts easily, and has been problem free. I’ve mowed fairly wet and tall grass and been impressed with it.


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Re: Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? [Re: fisher83] #5427802 05/13/20 12:16 AM
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I'd be looking at the 160 engine specifically

Re: Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? [Re: sh40674] #5427813 05/13/20 02:08 AM
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if you could find a honda powered aluminum decked mower it may be the last mower you buy.

Re: Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? [Re: sh40674] #5427840 05/13/20 04:03 AM
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I have the Honda GCV 160 which is the normal Honda motor for the least expensive mowers. The mower is a Toro self propelled “recycler” type and can bog in damp or really long grass. It came with a clip on to convert to a side discharge by flipping up a spring loaded plastic flap.That’s the ticket to get through the tough stuff. It just plows through everything when in the side discharge mode. It apparently has a max torque of 8.4 ft lbs at 2500 rpm.

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Re: Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? [Re: sh40674] #5427843 05/13/20 04:14 AM
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There are these two 163 CC Briggs engines. One has 6.75 ft lbs of torque at 2600 rpm as per SAE J1940 and implicitly the other one might have 7.25 but not sure.

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Re: Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? [Re: sh40674] #5427854 05/13/20 04:28 AM
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I've had both. And for the same/similar money, you get more torque with the B&S for that higher grass but the Honda's have been more reliable for me.

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Re: Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? [Re: sh40674] #5427858 05/13/20 04:34 AM
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Both are good. However, I would give a Honda a slight edge as a more efficient engine. why ? it can accomplish equal or higher power ratings with a smaller cylinder displacement. B & S is 190 CC and Honda 160 CC.

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Re: Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? [Re: sh40674] #5427871 05/13/20 05:57 AM
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I have had both B&S and Honda. Still use the Honda each week over 10 years now. I like the B&S also have one on my pressure washer and is very reliable. One thing with some newer B&S I do not like is all plastic carb. We purchased one for my parents place at the beach and it does not run smooth at all. My neighbor has one and she has trouble starting hers and it does not run smooth up and down.

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Both Honda and Briggs have 190cc engines. Honda's new engine is a 170


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Re: Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? [Re: sh40674] #5427877 05/13/20 06:09 AM
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I bought my younger sister a Cub Cadet mower with a Honda engine. It is on sale for $269 at the moment. Hers is a push model. https://www.cubcadet.com/en_US/push-mowers/sc-100-h/11A-A2AQ710.html


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Re: Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? [Re: sh40674] #5427881 05/13/20 06:15 AM
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I have mowers with both the Honda 160cc and 190cc motors. The 160 bogs down quite easily in my non-demanding lawn, while the 190 does a much better job - better than you would think a mere 30cc increase in displacement would do.

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Got a 7.25 B&S mower from Sears last summer to replace an older 6.75 (that was loaned out) … came home from a trip and the garden tractor would not crank (needed solenoid) … so it had to cut thick grass day one and has the power to do it.

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I can find a mower with the 6.75 briggs but not the 725 (that is not self propelled)

Re: Getting a new push mower.. honda power vs briggs? [Re: sh40674] #5427890 05/13/20 06:38 AM
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I came from an old mower (2009) with Briggs 675 series 190cc engine to a new Honda GCVx 145 engine mower.

The Honda runs smoother, starts absolutely effortlessly (one pull it runs, Honda easy start system).

Cuts grass like it's going through air.

I always wanted to own Honda powered gardening equipment - my new mower is the first one. Very impressed so far.

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